"10 YEAR OLD SORREL AMERICAN QUARTER HORSE GELDING. HAS A FOUR YEAR HISTORY OF GRADE 2-3 CHRONIC BILATERAL FORELIMB LAMENESS PROBLEM, CALLED NAVICULAR. SUITABLE FOR LIGHT RIDING OR AS A PASTURE COMPANION FOR ANOTHER HORSE. " Does this mean he can't run, or can't bear weight, or both? Or what?
Can someone decipher this description below for me, please?
10 yrs old- obvious.
Sorrel- red body, blonde mane and tail
American Quarter Horse: a breed of horse
Gelding: castrated male
Navicular disease: a term used to describe horses with chronic heel pain, because they have a little bone called the navicular bone at the back of their foot. Read on!
The rest is bad news. He has been lame in both front legs for 4 years. Grade 2-3 is serious (Grade 5 is non weight bearing, the horse holds the foot up at all times).
If you are thinking about buying this horse, don't-- run the other way!!! If, as your name suggests, you already bought him, have a vet come and evaluate him ASAP. It doesn't sound like he is suitable even for light riding, and from the description, it may not even be humane to leave him out in the field to look pretty without corrective shoeing and daily pain meds. Have your vet do nerve blocks. He may look like he's moving okay, but when you numb one front leg (he will still be able to use it, and he won't be lame on it), sometimes they are dramatically lame on the other front leg. He was really that lame all along, it was just hidden by being lame in both front legs. Navicular horses have a tendency to trip and fall, sometimes on their riders, so I would stay off him if I were you. If he is ridden, it should be for short rides, on soft, level, even footing, and only at a walk. If you want to give him a retirement home, realize that you may need to pay for corrective shoeing every 4-6 weeks and dialy pain meds. Good Luck!!
Reply:I agree that you should not get this horse...but if you think that shoeing every 4-6 weeks is "unusual" then maybe you shouldn't have a horse at all. Not all horses need shoes, but depending upon where you live, the kind of footing you ride on, how hard and how often you ride, or if you plan on showing it might be necessary. A horse normally should be reshod every 6-8 weeks, so 4-6 weeks is hardly extreme.
Remember that buying the horse is typically the cheapest part. A lot of people are literally abandoning their horses their year (opening the pasture gate and shooing them out) because of the increased prices in hay. Out here it went from $2/bale to $3.50/bale and it hasn't really even gotten cold yet. Not to mention that you need to have money ready for potential vet bills (especially for a younger horse). Do not be fooled into thinking that you can get something for nothing. A friend of mine with absolutely no horse experience bought a horse for $25 (basically for free but the owner had them pay for farrier work) and in 1 year they have had to call out the vet for 3 separate injuries and have put well over $1,000 into her. I haven't asked exactly how much, it could certainly be more than that, but the horse is now completely unsound and probably on the verge of euthanasia by now. And they had nothing to do with the accidents, one was just when the filly fell into a hole and another happened when she caught herself on the barbed wire fence. They're yet to be able to ride her and they've had her for over a year.
Please keep this in mind as you continue to look for horses. If you can't pay a few hundred dollars at the drop of a hay for a vet bill if the horse gets injured, then just walk away.
Reply:It means the horse is permanently lame on both of it's front legs. He probably can't run (at least without pain) and probably should never be riden. Having this disease for 4 years, I'm surprised he hasn't been put down yet. The horse is probably in constant pain.
Reply:it means a little of both he mostly for petting and looking pretty
Reply:Means you can't really run him or should ride him very much as his forelimb may go out on him.
Reply:light riding and little weight on him and no running
Reply:Try the link below. Here is what the first few lines have to say. It sounds like he might not be able to bear much weight, but may or may not get better. Does look like a nice horse though.
Navicular syndrome is a degenerative disease involving the navicular bone, navicular bursa and deep digital flexor tendon. It is a common cause of lameness in the middle-aged performance horse.
The mention of the word 'navicular' makes the heart race for many riders and they assume the athletic career of their horse is automatically over. There are a number of treatment regimes that can offer a significant improvement to your horse’s lameness, however, some horses will respond better to certain regimes than others and its important to try a number of treatment methods before giving up in despair.
Reply:This means he can be ridden by a light person, ad not for long. Or, if you have another horse, you can put this horse in for a companion. Also can be used for someone who can't ride, but wants a companion.
Tuesday, April 28, 2009
Should i take the owner of a horse i board to court to get ownership of the horse?
she owes me for 4 mths board(400.00), 4 times having her feet trimmed(80.00) and a wormer(13.00).
i'm not a jerk just out to get her horse but if she can't afford her she shouldn't have her. i have been paying for her food and maintaining her for the last 4 months and haven't heard from her owner. when i do tell her that she needs her feet trimmed, she says that she will bring the money(20.00) but i never see her for months.
i don't feel i should have to call and remind her about board or feet trimmings because you don't forget about a 1200 lb animal that you are supposed to love.
the horse is a wonderful animal(11yr old tb mare that has only been under saddle about 15 times). i just want to give her a secure life and good training.
she has been here for 4 yrs and i have grown very attatched to her.
i also own a 17 yr old sorrel mare and board a 5 yr old paint gelding.
Should i take the owner of a horse i board to court to get ownership of the horse?
first off FAIR PLAY to you for taking such an interest in this horse's wellbeing - many stable owners would have now chucked this horse out onto the nearest road and let her fend for herself. If I were you I would ring the owner and tell her straight out the amount that she currently owes you - now I know that you may be taking a loss here - but I would tell her straight out that as far as you're concerned she has no interest in the horse, and you would be willing to write off the amount of money she owes you in exchange for her animal.
If she disagrees to this - then yes take her sorry neglectful **** to court! thank god for people like you who genuinely love animals! As an owner of two horses myself I couldnt just abonden them like this - some people so do not deserve to be animal ownders
Reply:Talk to a lawyer,get the animal away from this loser!!!
Reply:I don't think going to court is going to give you the answer you want. If you went to court, the judge will probably make the lady reimburse you for the expenses, and say that if you want the horse, you have to buy it. I know that's crap because you have spent so much on this horse (not just finances), and deserve better, but court rulings don't work that way- they go by dollar amounts and evidence, and make a ruling that is fair in that sense.
If you want to buy her, I suggest offering her money to buy the horse, and then saying that you want her to reimburse you for the expenses she was supposed to pay you. You need to be able to show the court that you made every effort to get your money back before taking legal action. I would write the lady a letter (so you and her can have a copy), stating everything that she needs to pay you for, give her a week to respond, then send another threatening legal action. This way, it gives her a chance to pay you before going to court, and if she doesn't it proves that you made a good effort to get your money back by other means.
As far as getting to own the horse, it could get a bit sticky, so if I were you, I'd offer to buy the horse, ask that she take the money she owes you off the price. If she refuses, say- ok, but you need to pay me the money you owe me. That way, she knows that even though you are paying full price of the horse, you still require payment for the expenses, and she won't get a shock when you send her the letter.
Like I said, if you go to court, chances are the judge will say that the expenses are one thing and ownership is another, they won't allow you to accept a horse as payment for outstanding expenses, but you certainly have a right to get your money back for the board etc. I would take her to court for that.
Reply:since a horse is considered property, and you have performed services for the horse agreed to by the owner, you should be able to put a lien on the animal until the balance is paid, depending on what state you live in if the balance is not paid in thirty days the horse legally becomes yours.
Reply:KF is right,
any simple business law course will tell you this.
when i started boarding, i signed a contract like a lease on an apartment, that had specific requirements. One was that i keep my horse in good health. another is that if i do not pay the boarding price, fees will be assesed for the first month late, and if no attempt is made to remedy the situation (ie me calling the barn owners and apologizing) then the horse is theirs. At that point they could keep it, sell it etc.
HOWEVER. this is not always the case. in more horsey states, the laws may be quite different. Get in touch with a lawer to start with.
ALSO, if this horse is registered, you will need to go through legal processes to transfer ownership to you. this may take a while.
ANOTHER THING, if this horse is becoming uncared for, you should call your local animal protection agency, after taking multiple pictures over a period of time of the horse's condition. show them your horses in comparison, and ask that you adopt the horse. Or they can seize it and adopt it out. either way, you will be getting a horse into a place where the OWNER will love it, not the barn owner. :)
you are doing a great job taking care of this matter. remember the main thing right now is to keep track of EVERYTHING and dont do anything for the owner. do it for the horse. she needs your help right now.
Reply:In the state of Missouri,Transfer of ownership has to be stated in a lease agreement, with responsibilities falling to the owner for notification of arrears. Limits are placed on late fees and other incidentals. These precaution are in place to keep a facility from claiming delinquencies to take ownership of a nice horse. The process through legal channels takes approx. 90 days. If you want transferable registration, it would probably take a court order, unless the two parties can come to an amiable agreement.
As a trainer it is frustrating to have those kind of people come through you program, I had clients sneak into the barn while I was at a show and it cost me my farm.. Good luck.
Reply:i think you can take her to court for the money she owes u but i'm not sure you can take her to court for the horse, you would be better off just trying to call the owner and asking her if instead of paying you back all the money, you would be willing to take the horse and forget about the money issue and she could come and see the horse when ever she wants, and since she doesn't come out now i'm pretty sure that she probably won't come out then or if she does come out it may be like once or something, that way you won't have to pay court costs, and if she says no that she doesn't want to give the horse away then just tell her that if she doesn't pay you all the money she owes you soon you will be forced to take her to court
Reply:Did you have her sign a traditional board agreement before she moved in? Usually there's a clause that the horse can be seized in liu of payment for past board and associated fees.
Other than that, I think you *could* go to small claims court and propose to the judge that the horse itself in exchange for past due board would settle the debt. Only problem is, the judge might just demand the horse is removed from the premesis, then order the boarder to pay all back bills. It doesn't sound like you want that... and I know it wouldn't make me happy either.
Is the horse being neglected in any other way? Vaccines? Teeth floated, etc.? Maybe you could cal the ASPCA or local humane society and see what their take is on it. Perhaps they would 'seize' the horse, and you could foster it~ eventually adopting it~ but that has no guaranteed outcome either.
So, yeah. I'm being longwinded. Hire a lawyer, bring documentation, and seize the horse. The fact that she made it to 11 and has only been u/s 15x makes me think she's damned lucky to have found you. Good for you for caring.
Reply:I think you should take her to court for the money she owes you or ask her for owership of the horse free in exchange for the money she owes you.
Reply:The owners of the stable do have a problem, and the first thing they should do is look at their boarding contracts and check what terms they wrote into them.
Then they should find out what their state laws are. There are actually laws in almost every state that cover exactly this sort of situation, but a lot of barn owners don't realize this.
They need to find out the specifics of their state's law. Most laws allow the stable owner to take possession of the horses when board has remained unpaid for a certain amount of time (depends on the state) and when they stable owner can prove that he or she has made certain specific efforts (sometimes a registered letter, but again, this depends on the state) to contact the horses' owner and get payment. In some states, the law goes into effect after the horse has been left at the barn with board unpaid for nine months -- in other states, the period is a lot shorter.
Your stable owners need to do some legal research to find out what the state laws are, and they will probably need some legal advice to help them proceed from there. A lawyer willl be able to advise them whether the best procedure for them would be to take possession of the horses or to bring a collection lawsuit against the horses' owner.
There are specialist lawyers who deal with equine law, and that's the kind of lawyer they will need.
- Jessica
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Reply:you should've had it in a contract with rules and consequinces for nonpayment.since you probablt didn't I would right her a registered letter explaining in detail what she owes and give her a time limit on payment(like 2 weeks-a month).Also enclose a letter that would give her the option to surrender the horse to you for the amount owed and have her notorize it and send it back.This will help protect you if it comes to court and hopefully be settled out of court. g'luck
Reply:you know she has money problems, call her and offer to buy the horse less the amount already owed, if she refuses then tell her she has a certain amount of time to come up with the past due amount and move her horse off your premises or you are going to take her to court
Reply:THE HORSE IS YOURS SINCE YOU PAY FOR ITS UPKEEP. MOVE THE HORSE TO ANOTHER BARN. THEN START THE LEGAL PROCEDURES.MAYBE A JUDGE WILL SEE THE OWNER UNFIT AND YOU WILL GAIN SOLE OWNERSHIP OF THE HORSE. GOOD LUCK
Reply:First, I hope you have a signed contract.
Second, you should bill her every month for the board due showing how much is owed in back bills. Stating a due date and when the amount is past due and a late fee for the balance is helpful.
Third, if you weren't authorized by the owner to have the horse's feet trimmed, I don't think a judge will make her pay for it. Same for the wormer. Irregardless if the horse's health required it.
Put all correspondence into writing, with copies for both of you, that way she can't ignore it.
If you're going to take care of someone else's animal, get a contract and bill for services rendered at every month or you will get seriously burned.
My brother in law had someone stop paying board, and yes, he billed everyone every month and made them sign a contract. He ended up selling the horse and taking what the owner owed him out of the sale price and then gave the owners the difference on the balance. He's been boarding for years.And I think that clause was written into the contract. He still had his lawyer go through the steps prior to seizing the horse, though.
Reply:This is a state to state law question.
In AZ. a horse can be leaned and held for payment due just as if it were a car and a mechanic had worked on it. but then you need a boarders license to do this.
the sad thing is many folks buy horses not knowing all the cost involved in the ownership of said horse. or many have a change of interest and forget about them.
talk to her and see if you can make some kind of deal for the horse that will work out in both of your interests.
But in the mean time get a hold of your law-er and have him/her check out the local and state laws were you live.
Reply:It might be worth it you might be able to save court cost and have the owner sign her over without a fuss. Sadly many owners abandone their horses and never come back. I've known six dumped at one barn by different owners! Have a very calm sincere talk and see if there are problems or she wants to work it out. If she decides to sell the horse and doesn't do it directly from your property you'll probably have to go court. If they're with you state directly that "X" amount should be given to you and the rest to the owner. Hope it works out for you
i'm not a jerk just out to get her horse but if she can't afford her she shouldn't have her. i have been paying for her food and maintaining her for the last 4 months and haven't heard from her owner. when i do tell her that she needs her feet trimmed, she says that she will bring the money(20.00) but i never see her for months.
i don't feel i should have to call and remind her about board or feet trimmings because you don't forget about a 1200 lb animal that you are supposed to love.
the horse is a wonderful animal(11yr old tb mare that has only been under saddle about 15 times). i just want to give her a secure life and good training.
she has been here for 4 yrs and i have grown very attatched to her.
i also own a 17 yr old sorrel mare and board a 5 yr old paint gelding.
Should i take the owner of a horse i board to court to get ownership of the horse?
first off FAIR PLAY to you for taking such an interest in this horse's wellbeing - many stable owners would have now chucked this horse out onto the nearest road and let her fend for herself. If I were you I would ring the owner and tell her straight out the amount that she currently owes you - now I know that you may be taking a loss here - but I would tell her straight out that as far as you're concerned she has no interest in the horse, and you would be willing to write off the amount of money she owes you in exchange for her animal.
If she disagrees to this - then yes take her sorry neglectful **** to court! thank god for people like you who genuinely love animals! As an owner of two horses myself I couldnt just abonden them like this - some people so do not deserve to be animal ownders
Reply:Talk to a lawyer,get the animal away from this loser!!!
Reply:I don't think going to court is going to give you the answer you want. If you went to court, the judge will probably make the lady reimburse you for the expenses, and say that if you want the horse, you have to buy it. I know that's crap because you have spent so much on this horse (not just finances), and deserve better, but court rulings don't work that way- they go by dollar amounts and evidence, and make a ruling that is fair in that sense.
If you want to buy her, I suggest offering her money to buy the horse, and then saying that you want her to reimburse you for the expenses she was supposed to pay you. You need to be able to show the court that you made every effort to get your money back before taking legal action. I would write the lady a letter (so you and her can have a copy), stating everything that she needs to pay you for, give her a week to respond, then send another threatening legal action. This way, it gives her a chance to pay you before going to court, and if she doesn't it proves that you made a good effort to get your money back by other means.
As far as getting to own the horse, it could get a bit sticky, so if I were you, I'd offer to buy the horse, ask that she take the money she owes you off the price. If she refuses, say- ok, but you need to pay me the money you owe me. That way, she knows that even though you are paying full price of the horse, you still require payment for the expenses, and she won't get a shock when you send her the letter.
Like I said, if you go to court, chances are the judge will say that the expenses are one thing and ownership is another, they won't allow you to accept a horse as payment for outstanding expenses, but you certainly have a right to get your money back for the board etc. I would take her to court for that.
Reply:since a horse is considered property, and you have performed services for the horse agreed to by the owner, you should be able to put a lien on the animal until the balance is paid, depending on what state you live in if the balance is not paid in thirty days the horse legally becomes yours.
Reply:KF is right,
any simple business law course will tell you this.
when i started boarding, i signed a contract like a lease on an apartment, that had specific requirements. One was that i keep my horse in good health. another is that if i do not pay the boarding price, fees will be assesed for the first month late, and if no attempt is made to remedy the situation (ie me calling the barn owners and apologizing) then the horse is theirs. At that point they could keep it, sell it etc.
HOWEVER. this is not always the case. in more horsey states, the laws may be quite different. Get in touch with a lawer to start with.
ALSO, if this horse is registered, you will need to go through legal processes to transfer ownership to you. this may take a while.
ANOTHER THING, if this horse is becoming uncared for, you should call your local animal protection agency, after taking multiple pictures over a period of time of the horse's condition. show them your horses in comparison, and ask that you adopt the horse. Or they can seize it and adopt it out. either way, you will be getting a horse into a place where the OWNER will love it, not the barn owner. :)
you are doing a great job taking care of this matter. remember the main thing right now is to keep track of EVERYTHING and dont do anything for the owner. do it for the horse. she needs your help right now.
Reply:In the state of Missouri,Transfer of ownership has to be stated in a lease agreement, with responsibilities falling to the owner for notification of arrears. Limits are placed on late fees and other incidentals. These precaution are in place to keep a facility from claiming delinquencies to take ownership of a nice horse. The process through legal channels takes approx. 90 days. If you want transferable registration, it would probably take a court order, unless the two parties can come to an amiable agreement.
As a trainer it is frustrating to have those kind of people come through you program, I had clients sneak into the barn while I was at a show and it cost me my farm.. Good luck.
Reply:i think you can take her to court for the money she owes u but i'm not sure you can take her to court for the horse, you would be better off just trying to call the owner and asking her if instead of paying you back all the money, you would be willing to take the horse and forget about the money issue and she could come and see the horse when ever she wants, and since she doesn't come out now i'm pretty sure that she probably won't come out then or if she does come out it may be like once or something, that way you won't have to pay court costs, and if she says no that she doesn't want to give the horse away then just tell her that if she doesn't pay you all the money she owes you soon you will be forced to take her to court
Reply:Did you have her sign a traditional board agreement before she moved in? Usually there's a clause that the horse can be seized in liu of payment for past board and associated fees.
Other than that, I think you *could* go to small claims court and propose to the judge that the horse itself in exchange for past due board would settle the debt. Only problem is, the judge might just demand the horse is removed from the premesis, then order the boarder to pay all back bills. It doesn't sound like you want that... and I know it wouldn't make me happy either.
Is the horse being neglected in any other way? Vaccines? Teeth floated, etc.? Maybe you could cal the ASPCA or local humane society and see what their take is on it. Perhaps they would 'seize' the horse, and you could foster it~ eventually adopting it~ but that has no guaranteed outcome either.
So, yeah. I'm being longwinded. Hire a lawyer, bring documentation, and seize the horse. The fact that she made it to 11 and has only been u/s 15x makes me think she's damned lucky to have found you. Good for you for caring.
Reply:I think you should take her to court for the money she owes you or ask her for owership of the horse free in exchange for the money she owes you.
Reply:The owners of the stable do have a problem, and the first thing they should do is look at their boarding contracts and check what terms they wrote into them.
Then they should find out what their state laws are. There are actually laws in almost every state that cover exactly this sort of situation, but a lot of barn owners don't realize this.
They need to find out the specifics of their state's law. Most laws allow the stable owner to take possession of the horses when board has remained unpaid for a certain amount of time (depends on the state) and when they stable owner can prove that he or she has made certain specific efforts (sometimes a registered letter, but again, this depends on the state) to contact the horses' owner and get payment. In some states, the law goes into effect after the horse has been left at the barn with board unpaid for nine months -- in other states, the period is a lot shorter.
Your stable owners need to do some legal research to find out what the state laws are, and they will probably need some legal advice to help them proceed from there. A lawyer willl be able to advise them whether the best procedure for them would be to take possession of the horses or to bring a collection lawsuit against the horses' owner.
There are specialist lawyers who deal with equine law, and that's the kind of lawyer they will need.
- Jessica
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Reply:you should've had it in a contract with rules and consequinces for nonpayment.since you probablt didn't I would right her a registered letter explaining in detail what she owes and give her a time limit on payment(like 2 weeks-a month).Also enclose a letter that would give her the option to surrender the horse to you for the amount owed and have her notorize it and send it back.This will help protect you if it comes to court and hopefully be settled out of court. g'luck
Reply:you know she has money problems, call her and offer to buy the horse less the amount already owed, if she refuses then tell her she has a certain amount of time to come up with the past due amount and move her horse off your premises or you are going to take her to court
Reply:THE HORSE IS YOURS SINCE YOU PAY FOR ITS UPKEEP. MOVE THE HORSE TO ANOTHER BARN. THEN START THE LEGAL PROCEDURES.MAYBE A JUDGE WILL SEE THE OWNER UNFIT AND YOU WILL GAIN SOLE OWNERSHIP OF THE HORSE. GOOD LUCK
Reply:First, I hope you have a signed contract.
Second, you should bill her every month for the board due showing how much is owed in back bills. Stating a due date and when the amount is past due and a late fee for the balance is helpful.
Third, if you weren't authorized by the owner to have the horse's feet trimmed, I don't think a judge will make her pay for it. Same for the wormer. Irregardless if the horse's health required it.
Put all correspondence into writing, with copies for both of you, that way she can't ignore it.
If you're going to take care of someone else's animal, get a contract and bill for services rendered at every month or you will get seriously burned.
My brother in law had someone stop paying board, and yes, he billed everyone every month and made them sign a contract. He ended up selling the horse and taking what the owner owed him out of the sale price and then gave the owners the difference on the balance. He's been boarding for years.And I think that clause was written into the contract. He still had his lawyer go through the steps prior to seizing the horse, though.
Reply:This is a state to state law question.
In AZ. a horse can be leaned and held for payment due just as if it were a car and a mechanic had worked on it. but then you need a boarders license to do this.
the sad thing is many folks buy horses not knowing all the cost involved in the ownership of said horse. or many have a change of interest and forget about them.
talk to her and see if you can make some kind of deal for the horse that will work out in both of your interests.
But in the mean time get a hold of your law-er and have him/her check out the local and state laws were you live.
Reply:It might be worth it you might be able to save court cost and have the owner sign her over without a fuss. Sadly many owners abandone their horses and never come back. I've known six dumped at one barn by different owners! Have a very calm sincere talk and see if there are problems or she wants to work it out. If she decides to sell the horse and doesn't do it directly from your property you'll probably have to go court. If they're with you state directly that "X" amount should be given to you and the rest to the owner. Hope it works out for you
What color goes best with a sorrel?
I am trying to decide what color of new tack I should get for Christmas, but I can't decide what color! I have lavender, purple, and pink stuff for her already so those are the colors I can't decide between. What do you think?
What color goes best with a sorrel?
If you have super clothing in the colors pink or purple, then you are just going to have to personally decide which you like better and stick with that.
I believe the reason you're having people not answer outright is because neither pink or lavender actually tone that well with a red toned horse such as a sorrel. (Just as most red headed people are told they shouldn't wear pink! But many do because they like the color!) That doesn't mean you shouldn't use what you have, but don't be surprised when people give you answers such as blue and green when those are colors that generally look better on a sorrel.
You can go onto the Hobby Horse Website and look at their color wheel, they offer advice on what colors look best on what color of horse, and they also offer advice on clothing necessary at the different levels of showing.
If I had a sorrel and owned good quality clothing and horse tack in the colors you have mentioned, I probably would avoid the pink and go with the purple. Lavender would be my second choice. But since none of the colors are totally ideal, I would also take into account which shirt I owned that I liked the best!
I'm sure you'll do well in whatever color you select. Be proud of your horse and don't be scared to be an individual. I highly doubt that the world will end if you use colors that aren't traditional with your sorrel horse, and I doubt it's going to drastically affect how you place! So have fun and enjoy!
Reply:Hunter green. I would stay away from anything pink or purple. JMO
Reply:Try green.. thats a great color with sorrels... another one is Orange.......
Reply:I have a sorrel mare also, we did HOT PINK and she looks stunning! I found a really pretty halter that was made from nylon. It has a pink background with all different colors going down the side...looks wonderful...we also got the blanket and leg wraps
Reply:lavender or dark purple
black
dark green
take a pic when you go shoping and deside then!
Reply:lime green......lol
and im being serous.....ive got blue teal and sometime i put the lime green on her....
Reply:i love purple but i really think pink is best for a sorrel, bringing out her red coat whereas purple wouldn't do that as well.
have fun and good luck
Reply:I think purple looks nice on a sorrel.
Reply:i hav a sorrel mare and all her stuff is turquise and ivy green the green really slims her chessy but (she's a quarter horse so she has a very good, muscular butt)
Reply:Hunter green looks good on sorrel's.
Reply:Well if you have to work with lavender, pink, and purple and if you have a sorrel i would go with i would go with a bright purple cuz i think a lavender or maybe even pink might wash her out.
Reply:Surely what matters is that it's made of good quality materials, fits your horse properly and is made for the discipline you want to use it for. Color should obviously be secondary to all of that - don't look for a color, look for the best tack you can find and then ask what colors they do that, or similar tack, in.
Along from that, it's just personal preference. Everybody here will have a different idea about how to best make themselves and their horse look trendy and fashionable. I prefer old-school tan or black leather, myself.
What color goes best with a sorrel?
If you have super clothing in the colors pink or purple, then you are just going to have to personally decide which you like better and stick with that.
I believe the reason you're having people not answer outright is because neither pink or lavender actually tone that well with a red toned horse such as a sorrel. (Just as most red headed people are told they shouldn't wear pink! But many do because they like the color!) That doesn't mean you shouldn't use what you have, but don't be surprised when people give you answers such as blue and green when those are colors that generally look better on a sorrel.
You can go onto the Hobby Horse Website and look at their color wheel, they offer advice on what colors look best on what color of horse, and they also offer advice on clothing necessary at the different levels of showing.
If I had a sorrel and owned good quality clothing and horse tack in the colors you have mentioned, I probably would avoid the pink and go with the purple. Lavender would be my second choice. But since none of the colors are totally ideal, I would also take into account which shirt I owned that I liked the best!
I'm sure you'll do well in whatever color you select. Be proud of your horse and don't be scared to be an individual. I highly doubt that the world will end if you use colors that aren't traditional with your sorrel horse, and I doubt it's going to drastically affect how you place! So have fun and enjoy!
Reply:Hunter green. I would stay away from anything pink or purple. JMO
Reply:Try green.. thats a great color with sorrels... another one is Orange.......
Reply:I have a sorrel mare also, we did HOT PINK and she looks stunning! I found a really pretty halter that was made from nylon. It has a pink background with all different colors going down the side...looks wonderful...we also got the blanket and leg wraps
Reply:lavender or dark purple
black
dark green
take a pic when you go shoping and deside then!
Reply:lime green......lol
and im being serous.....ive got blue teal and sometime i put the lime green on her....
Reply:i love purple but i really think pink is best for a sorrel, bringing out her red coat whereas purple wouldn't do that as well.
have fun and good luck
Reply:I think purple looks nice on a sorrel.
Reply:i hav a sorrel mare and all her stuff is turquise and ivy green the green really slims her chessy but (she's a quarter horse so she has a very good, muscular butt)
Reply:Hunter green looks good on sorrel's.
Reply:Well if you have to work with lavender, pink, and purple and if you have a sorrel i would go with i would go with a bright purple cuz i think a lavender or maybe even pink might wash her out.
Reply:Surely what matters is that it's made of good quality materials, fits your horse properly and is made for the discipline you want to use it for. Color should obviously be secondary to all of that - don't look for a color, look for the best tack you can find and then ask what colors they do that, or similar tack, in.
Along from that, it's just personal preference. Everybody here will have a different idea about how to best make themselves and their horse look trendy and fashionable. I prefer old-school tan or black leather, myself.
What should my horses show name be ?
My horses barn name is Topper. He is a sorrel with a slightly flaxen mane.
What should my horses show name be ?
One of the greatest roping horses to ever live was an AQHA gelding named Topofthemarket. Might work for you =).
Reply:unstoppable force
Reply:Nondeductable.
Top of the mountain.
How Top-R- U?
Copper Topper
Topper Than Copper
Topper Copper
Topper Than U
Topper Shot Her
Reply:Star Topper
Topper's Secret
Addicted to Topper
No More Stopping For Topper
Names without Topper:
Sundance
Stardust/ Star shine
Lightning Bearer
Shall We Dance
Gold Tornado
Reply:Sky's the Limit
Reply:%26amp;♥;Red Copper [in stead of T it is C] lol
%26amp;♥;Topper this
%26amp;♥;Apple Candy Topper
%26amp;♥;Carmel Topper
%26amp;♥;Slate Topper
%26amp;♥;Something to talk about topper
%26amp;♥;Goldylocked Topper
%26amp;♥;Big time Topper
%26amp;♥;Brass magic Top
%26amp;♥;Bring it Topper
%26amp;♥;The general Topper
%26amp;♥;Thunder Top
%26amp;♥;The topic is topper
%26amp;♥;Poppy Toppy
%26amp;♥;At the top
%26amp;♥;Two to tango Topper
%26amp;♥;Velvet Tops
%26amp;♥;Poppin Toppn
%26amp;♥;On top of the world
%26amp;♥;Spinnen Topper
%26amp;♥;Topping the best Orr
%26amp;♥;The best Topping
%26amp;♥;Strawberry Toppings
%26amp;♥; that is all i could think of lol
%26amp;♥;
Reply:Top It Off!
Reply:"Money Pit"
It is a perfect name for it is what every horse winds up being.
Not that it is necesarily a bad thing.
It goes back to the old saying...How do you make a million dollars with horses?
You start out with two million dollars.
Reply:sun ray's glory
cherry on top
pot of gold
Reply:topper tyoga
Reply:Do you show English or Western or both? How about Top Gun?
Reply:Top of the Line
Top Dog (Sort of strange for a horse, but could prove interesting)
Top This
Reply:The Dutchess
Reply:phantom moon
i'm already winning
lucky top
one in a million
im on fire
top that
catch me if you can
my alibi
midnight moon
midnight star
star fire
fire star
come and get me
show star
showring luck
storm cloud
Reply:Does Topper have papers or do you know his dam and sire's names? If you do sinply incorporate their names into a attention getting registered name. Presto there you go with a wonderful formal name.
Reply:If you live in Montana you could name it Bigsky.Or if you live anywhere else you could name it skylark.Or Destryen,Coalblack,or Fledge.
Reply:Top of The Line
Top Dog
Top of the World
I dunno i thought those were pretty good
skin disease
What should my horses show name be ?
One of the greatest roping horses to ever live was an AQHA gelding named Topofthemarket. Might work for you =).
Reply:unstoppable force
Reply:Nondeductable.
Top of the mountain.
How Top-R- U?
Copper Topper
Topper Than Copper
Topper Copper
Topper Than U
Topper Shot Her
Reply:Star Topper
Topper's Secret
Addicted to Topper
No More Stopping For Topper
Names without Topper:
Sundance
Stardust/ Star shine
Lightning Bearer
Shall We Dance
Gold Tornado
Reply:Sky's the Limit
Reply:%26amp;♥;Red Copper [in stead of T it is C] lol
%26amp;♥;Topper this
%26amp;♥;Apple Candy Topper
%26amp;♥;Carmel Topper
%26amp;♥;Slate Topper
%26amp;♥;Something to talk about topper
%26amp;♥;Goldylocked Topper
%26amp;♥;Big time Topper
%26amp;♥;Brass magic Top
%26amp;♥;Bring it Topper
%26amp;♥;The general Topper
%26amp;♥;Thunder Top
%26amp;♥;The topic is topper
%26amp;♥;Poppy Toppy
%26amp;♥;At the top
%26amp;♥;Two to tango Topper
%26amp;♥;Velvet Tops
%26amp;♥;Poppin Toppn
%26amp;♥;On top of the world
%26amp;♥;Spinnen Topper
%26amp;♥;Topping the best Orr
%26amp;♥;The best Topping
%26amp;♥;Strawberry Toppings
%26amp;♥; that is all i could think of lol
%26amp;♥;
Reply:Top It Off!
Reply:"Money Pit"
It is a perfect name for it is what every horse winds up being.
Not that it is necesarily a bad thing.
It goes back to the old saying...How do you make a million dollars with horses?
You start out with two million dollars.
Reply:sun ray's glory
cherry on top
pot of gold
Reply:topper tyoga
Reply:Do you show English or Western or both? How about Top Gun?
Reply:Top of the Line
Top Dog (Sort of strange for a horse, but could prove interesting)
Top This
Reply:The Dutchess
Reply:phantom moon
i'm already winning
lucky top
one in a million
im on fire
top that
catch me if you can
my alibi
midnight moon
midnight star
star fire
fire star
come and get me
show star
showring luck
storm cloud
Reply:Does Topper have papers or do you know his dam and sire's names? If you do sinply incorporate their names into a attention getting registered name. Presto there you go with a wonderful formal name.
Reply:If you live in Montana you could name it Bigsky.Or if you live anywhere else you could name it skylark.Or Destryen,Coalblack,or Fledge.
Reply:Top of The Line
Top Dog
Top of the World
I dunno i thought those were pretty good
skin disease
What is a good name for a mare?
I just got some horses, but I can't think of any names for them. One is a sorrel mare, and the other is a bay mare. I would like to know what ya'll think.
What is a good name for a mare?
first thing that came to my mind was mary. i don't know if you think it is cheesy but I think it fits perfectly
Reply:MARY LOL THATS MY MUMS NAME
Reply:Name one frisky the other one your choice.
Reply:Sage and Mirage
Cloe and Tuscany
Reply:Star, Queen/Queenie, Sweet Heart, Pepermint Pride, Lucy, Rose, Just a Dream.
Reply:I like the names: Belladonna and Molly. But they are your horses so you name them what you want. I have a stud walkaloosa and his name is Tequila Sunrise. Tequila because it fits him very well and Sunrise because he was born at sunrise.
What is a good name for a mare?
first thing that came to my mind was mary. i don't know if you think it is cheesy but I think it fits perfectly
Reply:MARY LOL THATS MY MUMS NAME
Reply:Name one frisky the other one your choice.
Reply:Sage and Mirage
Cloe and Tuscany
Reply:Star, Queen/Queenie, Sweet Heart, Pepermint Pride, Lucy, Rose, Just a Dream.
Reply:I like the names: Belladonna and Molly. But they are your horses so you name them what you want. I have a stud walkaloosa and his name is Tequila Sunrise. Tequila because it fits him very well and Sunrise because he was born at sunrise.
How many 'sorrel's' do you know as in person?
I went to school with a guy named Tommy Sorrels. I know he and his wife.
Good colors for sorrel horse??
im looking for a saddle pad for a sorrelish/carmel colored horse
any suggestions??
Good colors for sorrel horse??
I would probably go with a nice plain leather black, they are really outstanding even if they do look rather boring. I have a sorrel coloured horse myself and I must say I got the black as a present, at first I didn't think I would like it but I soon loved it when I saw it against the lovely sorrel colour of my horse, Pip.
Reply:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_etYKaB...
any suggestions??
Good colors for sorrel horse??
I would probably go with a nice plain leather black, they are really outstanding even if they do look rather boring. I have a sorrel coloured horse myself and I must say I got the black as a present, at first I didn't think I would like it but I soon loved it when I saw it against the lovely sorrel colour of my horse, Pip.
Reply:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_etYKaB...
How to get color in Horses!?
I am starting to get into breeding Quarter Horses. And I was woundering if anyone knows of any ways to get colors other than that of the parents! Like maybe and red roan out of a sorrel mare and gray stallion or a buckskin, or a bay roan etc.
How to get color in Horses!?
bring in a colord paint stud, one can now register horses in both paint an qh - depending on markings
Reply:to get a red roan foal one of the parents would have to be a roan. So you would have to breed a strawberry or red roan to your sorrel mare and you could possibly get a roan colt. I dont think they come in bay roans. All I know about are red, strawberry and blue roans. I know that my horse is a grey and his parents were: Sire: A bay and Dam: A grey. If you wanted a palomino you could breed your sorrel/chestnut ( i know they arn't the same color, but they are in the same category genetically) to a palomino or cremello. Palomino is a dilution of the chestnut. And Buckskins are dilutions of the bays. Chestnut/Sorrel coloring is completely recessive, so if you dont want a sorrel dont breed to a sorrel or chestnut. If you want to add a paint blood line in, then get a paint (black, bay, buckskin, etc of course not a sorrel paint unless you want a sorrel paint baby as an option). Its pretty much as long as you breed any other color than chestnut/sorrel you wont get a the color of the mother. However, if you breed to a palomino you do run the risk of getting a chesnut/sorrel because it is a dilition of that. If however you want to have a bigger chance of getting a palomino (almost a gaurantee that you will get a palomino) breed the sorrel to a cremello. They are a double dilution to the chestnut and you will be almost for sure to have one cream(dilution) gene in there that will make the baby a palomino. You could also breed to a perlino, they are a double dilute of a bay. So its a buckskin with another cream gene. You could also breed to a black or something to get more color points (bay) or something in there.
I am in college and have had a equine science class where we covered coat color genetics. It has a lot to do with what genes your horse is carrying herself and what genes the father is carrying but in general these are the possibilities.
Reply:The AQHA magazine called America's Horse is doing a series on color and genetics. If you can get some past issues, as well as the upcoming ones, you'd be set to plan your horse herd! I know you can use a stallion that is homozygous for a certain color. Such as, if you breed a sorrel mare to a cremello stud, you are guaranteed to get a palomino or cremello baby. You would just have to do your homework on finding stallions that are tested for producing certain colors. And then of course, consider which mares to use with which stallions. Sounds like fun! Good luck--Quarter Horses are the best!
Reply:Color them with Koo Aid and Jell-O powder.
Reply:breeding for color is not an easy thing as its not the sire and dame as much as it goes back to the gandsires and dames.
if you breed 2 blacks you wont get black unless the black gene goes back many generations . The best thing to tell you here is to look back in the color genes of the sires and dames and go from there . But it is still a guessing game on what you will get in some . I have bred palominos with sorrels and gotten roans one yr and the next colt from same pair was a sorrel with flaxen mane and tail . so its always a guessing game and is exciting to see what the next crop of babies will be . The ones that really get me is the ones that will coat out a totally different color than what I was thinking ..A black colt has turned into a very good looking bay this past yr. So I keep on breeding and wondering and never disapointed , I breed not just for color but for build , strengh and brains
Reply:Its all about the genes. Grey's carry the G gene that is responsible for the dilution of color, and A i believe the gene that controls the presents of black hair. Breeding grey to a sorrel May get you a roan, do to the dilution effect of the grey. But as for buckskin, that's a gene that has to be inherited.
as for pintos genes such as the TO need to be present for the spotting.
deff. avoid breeding Ww and Ww (the white gene) you could get a foal with WW, fatal white syndrome that will die due to its unfinished development of the intestines.
Good Luck
Reply:color has a lot to do with genetics and in horses that can be complicated, you could go to the aqha website and you might get some good background on things like that.
Reply:You cannot alter the genetics that are already in place. And please remember that gray is not a color, but a factor. All horses that are gray were all born another color, but much like a human, the gray hair takes over. What I would do (and have done with my breeding program) is to breed for QUALITY and hope for the best color I can get. A high quality well trained horse of a more common color will always bring more than a poor quality flashy one.
Reply:Color genetics in horses can get quite complicated. If you breed a sorrel to a sorrel you will always get a sorrel. Sorrel to black will almost always be a bay but sometimes black if the stallion or mare are homozygous for the black gene. If you want palominos and buckskins breed to a cremollo or perlino. They will never sire a bay, sorrel, or black. The only way to get a red roan is to breed to one. It is a dominant gene but very uncommon. My red roan sabino stallion is out of a palomino overo and a red roan sabino. Go to www.horsetesting.com. They have an offspring coat color calculator. It will give the probability of what colors you will get. If your gray stallion tests homozygous gray, when breed to the sorrel mare he should have grey offspring. Hope this helped.
Reply:The majority of the time, to get color you're going to have to start with color. There are some genes that can skip a generation, but you have much better chances when you breed from colored horses.
I'd suggest looking at this site to learn more about how horse color genetics work:
http://www.equinecolor.com
If you want a red roan from a sorrel mare, breed her to a roan stallion. You're guaranteed a chestnut horse if you breed her to a red roan, and you'll have a decent chance of getting roan on top of that. You're not going to get a roan from a solid buckskin x sorrel mix, and you won't get one from a gray unless his roan gene is being hidden by the grey, and even then you have a good chance of the foal being gray.
Shark Teeth
How to get color in Horses!?
bring in a colord paint stud, one can now register horses in both paint an qh - depending on markings
Reply:to get a red roan foal one of the parents would have to be a roan. So you would have to breed a strawberry or red roan to your sorrel mare and you could possibly get a roan colt. I dont think they come in bay roans. All I know about are red, strawberry and blue roans. I know that my horse is a grey and his parents were: Sire: A bay and Dam: A grey. If you wanted a palomino you could breed your sorrel/chestnut ( i know they arn't the same color, but they are in the same category genetically) to a palomino or cremello. Palomino is a dilution of the chestnut. And Buckskins are dilutions of the bays. Chestnut/Sorrel coloring is completely recessive, so if you dont want a sorrel dont breed to a sorrel or chestnut. If you want to add a paint blood line in, then get a paint (black, bay, buckskin, etc of course not a sorrel paint unless you want a sorrel paint baby as an option). Its pretty much as long as you breed any other color than chestnut/sorrel you wont get a the color of the mother. However, if you breed to a palomino you do run the risk of getting a chesnut/sorrel because it is a dilition of that. If however you want to have a bigger chance of getting a palomino (almost a gaurantee that you will get a palomino) breed the sorrel to a cremello. They are a double dilution to the chestnut and you will be almost for sure to have one cream(dilution) gene in there that will make the baby a palomino. You could also breed to a perlino, they are a double dilute of a bay. So its a buckskin with another cream gene. You could also breed to a black or something to get more color points (bay) or something in there.
I am in college and have had a equine science class where we covered coat color genetics. It has a lot to do with what genes your horse is carrying herself and what genes the father is carrying but in general these are the possibilities.
Reply:The AQHA magazine called America's Horse is doing a series on color and genetics. If you can get some past issues, as well as the upcoming ones, you'd be set to plan your horse herd! I know you can use a stallion that is homozygous for a certain color. Such as, if you breed a sorrel mare to a cremello stud, you are guaranteed to get a palomino or cremello baby. You would just have to do your homework on finding stallions that are tested for producing certain colors. And then of course, consider which mares to use with which stallions. Sounds like fun! Good luck--Quarter Horses are the best!
Reply:Color them with Koo Aid and Jell-O powder.
Reply:breeding for color is not an easy thing as its not the sire and dame as much as it goes back to the gandsires and dames.
if you breed 2 blacks you wont get black unless the black gene goes back many generations . The best thing to tell you here is to look back in the color genes of the sires and dames and go from there . But it is still a guessing game on what you will get in some . I have bred palominos with sorrels and gotten roans one yr and the next colt from same pair was a sorrel with flaxen mane and tail . so its always a guessing game and is exciting to see what the next crop of babies will be . The ones that really get me is the ones that will coat out a totally different color than what I was thinking ..A black colt has turned into a very good looking bay this past yr. So I keep on breeding and wondering and never disapointed , I breed not just for color but for build , strengh and brains
Reply:Its all about the genes. Grey's carry the G gene that is responsible for the dilution of color, and A i believe the gene that controls the presents of black hair. Breeding grey to a sorrel May get you a roan, do to the dilution effect of the grey. But as for buckskin, that's a gene that has to be inherited.
as for pintos genes such as the TO need to be present for the spotting.
deff. avoid breeding Ww and Ww (the white gene) you could get a foal with WW, fatal white syndrome that will die due to its unfinished development of the intestines.
Good Luck
Reply:color has a lot to do with genetics and in horses that can be complicated, you could go to the aqha website and you might get some good background on things like that.
Reply:You cannot alter the genetics that are already in place. And please remember that gray is not a color, but a factor. All horses that are gray were all born another color, but much like a human, the gray hair takes over. What I would do (and have done with my breeding program) is to breed for QUALITY and hope for the best color I can get. A high quality well trained horse of a more common color will always bring more than a poor quality flashy one.
Reply:Color genetics in horses can get quite complicated. If you breed a sorrel to a sorrel you will always get a sorrel. Sorrel to black will almost always be a bay but sometimes black if the stallion or mare are homozygous for the black gene. If you want palominos and buckskins breed to a cremollo or perlino. They will never sire a bay, sorrel, or black. The only way to get a red roan is to breed to one. It is a dominant gene but very uncommon. My red roan sabino stallion is out of a palomino overo and a red roan sabino. Go to www.horsetesting.com. They have an offspring coat color calculator. It will give the probability of what colors you will get. If your gray stallion tests homozygous gray, when breed to the sorrel mare he should have grey offspring. Hope this helped.
Reply:The majority of the time, to get color you're going to have to start with color. There are some genes that can skip a generation, but you have much better chances when you breed from colored horses.
I'd suggest looking at this site to learn more about how horse color genetics work:
http://www.equinecolor.com
If you want a red roan from a sorrel mare, breed her to a roan stallion. You're guaranteed a chestnut horse if you breed her to a red roan, and you'll have a decent chance of getting roan on top of that. You're not going to get a roan from a solid buckskin x sorrel mix, and you won't get one from a gray unless his roan gene is being hidden by the grey, and even then you have a good chance of the foal being gray.
Shark Teeth
What is a Wood Sorrel?
A.... a bird
B.....A flower
C......An insect
D.... item of furniture
What is a Wood Sorrel?
B.....A flower
Reply:It does'nt fall into any of those categories.
Wood-sorrel[oxalis Acetosella] it is a creeping perennial,not more than 6 inches high,with leaf and flower stalks all coming from the rhizome. The soft hairy leaves tend to fold their leaflets. The white pale pink,or lilac flowers have 10 stamens and 5 styles;the fruit is capsule. It is a common woodland plant,often found in deep shade as in beechwoods.[april to july]
Reply:B - it is a plant.
Reply:its a plant 100%
Reply:A plant
Reply:It's a plant.
Reply:Tree....maybe:))
B.....A flower
C......An insect
D.... item of furniture
What is a Wood Sorrel?
B.....A flower
Reply:It does'nt fall into any of those categories.
Wood-sorrel[oxalis Acetosella] it is a creeping perennial,not more than 6 inches high,with leaf and flower stalks all coming from the rhizome. The soft hairy leaves tend to fold their leaflets. The white pale pink,or lilac flowers have 10 stamens and 5 styles;the fruit is capsule. It is a common woodland plant,often found in deep shade as in beechwoods.[april to july]
Reply:B - it is a plant.
Reply:its a plant 100%
Reply:A plant
Reply:It's a plant.
Reply:Tree....maybe:))
What colors would be pretty with a sorrel horse with white feet?
I just recently bought a sorrel TB gelding, he has a white face and all white feet. .I thought about showing him in a local show and was wondering what color would be best. I have a hot pink bridle with white leather and it has white stars in the center, white reins I also have the breast collar to match. What do you think? The bridle that I have is the ones that you mostly see on a Standardbred. I have untill thursday to change my mind so please help!! Thanks for all you help.
What colors would be pretty with a sorrel horse with white feet?
Look on the Hobby Horse Clothing website. They have a color wheel that shows what colors work best with each horse coat color. Depending on the exact shade of your horse, pink is generally not prefered for the "redhead" coat colors. Earthtones colors such as tan, whiskey, or cream or neutral colors such as blues, greens, and black work best with redhead coat colors
Reply:that would really nice. dont change your mind cause it sounds good
Reply:I've got a chestnut TB (same color) with a white blaze and 3 white socks and royal blue looks really nice on him.
Reply:that sounds really nice... purple white and silver would be a good combo also
What colors would be pretty with a sorrel horse with white feet?
Look on the Hobby Horse Clothing website. They have a color wheel that shows what colors work best with each horse coat color. Depending on the exact shade of your horse, pink is generally not prefered for the "redhead" coat colors. Earthtones colors such as tan, whiskey, or cream or neutral colors such as blues, greens, and black work best with redhead coat colors
Reply:that would really nice. dont change your mind cause it sounds good
Reply:I've got a chestnut TB (same color) with a white blaze and 3 white socks and royal blue looks really nice on him.
Reply:that sounds really nice... purple white and silver would be a good combo also
Red dun, sorrel, or chestnut???
what is the differenece between a red dun, a sorrel, or a chestnut? i need to know for my registration papers for my horse and i can't figure out which color he is. he is a redish color like a chestnut but has a darker line down his back. his tail is also a LITTTLLLEEE lighter ( hence the word "little") here is a side view... oh and also he is only 3 days old so he may change .... http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x280/...
Red dun, sorrel, or chestnut???
ok first thing's first.... in order for your colt to be a dun one of his parents MUST be a dun. Dun doesn't skip generations and the mare in that picture is not a dun, so if the stud wasn't a dun then your colt is not a dun. personally, i think he looks like your classic chestnut but you have to wait for his foal coat to shed off before you'll see his true color. sorrels and chesnuts are the same genetically, but sorrel is a light redish color and their manes and tails are lighter than their bodies (can range from slight tint difference to red body with white/flaxen mane and tail). chestnuts are darker brownish red to almost black with matching mane and tail. i think the stripe you're seeing is just counter shading in his foal coat and will go away once he sheds off. it's quite common that chestnuts are born with a dorsal stripe that sheds off with the foal coat. some never shed off but that still doesn't make them a red dun. a true dun has a dorsal and zebra stripes on the legs. the AQHA color guide mentions chestnuts with dorsal stripes.
**buckskin and dun are NOT the same thing and are two separate genetic make-ups. a buckskin carries the creme gene and the agouti gene. a dun carries the dun gene and may also carry the roan trait. it's possible for a buckskin to also carry the dun gene but that color is called dunskin and is usually pretty obvious on a mature horse. a plain buckskin horse would not produce a dun colt from a chestnut mare (the mare in this pic is a chestnut)
Reply:Red dun has a stripe that goes down the back and sometimes on the legs like a buckskin, only the stripe is a darker shade of red then the body color. The mane and tail are also this color.
Sorrel has a reddish brown body and a flaxen mane and tail. Flaxen is a pale yellow to white.
Chestnut can be several shades of brown, from liver, which is almost a chocolate brown to lighter shades. However, the mane and tail are the same color as the body.
Your little one looks chestnut, but after it has it's first shed it might be a little different. In the picture there does seem to be a dorsal stripe. Was either of the parents a buckskin or have it in the background?
Reply:What a sweetheart! It's kinda hard to tell from the pic but from your description I would say red dun. A sorrel is a lighter brown with a blonde or flaxen mane and tail and a chestnut is a red/brown with the same colour mane and tail. The darker stripe down his back gives him definition as a dun
Reply:Red- is more of a redish color
Dun- a buckskin
Sorrel-like a chesnut with white speckles
Chestnut- Is brownish orange
PICTURES-http://www.freewebs.com/thesaddlesisters...
Reply:Hi,
I agree, he looks sorrel. As was mentioned, one of the foal's parents must be a dun for the foal to be a dun. I am going through a similar circumstance at this moment, I have a bay mare who had a bright orange colt on May 16. He is a totally different color than your colt, and his sire IS a red dun(red duns like any other color of horse, comes in different shades of red...)
Here is a link to a pic of my colt and his sire beside him, and my own SORREL stallion below the pics of the red dun.I hope this helps.
http://dpquarterhorses.info/billie1.htm
My colt has a dorsal stripe, shoulder shading and his body color is lighter on his under belly, and he has faint stirpes on his legs. But so far nobody has said he was anything but sorrel, because I intentionally did not mention that his sire WAS a red dun. I suggest doing what I am going to do, and pull some mane or tail hairs from the sire AND the dam and send them to UC Davis for testing for dun factor. You can get the info on colors and testing forms from here :
http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/services/dunh...
Red dun, sorrel, or chestnut???
ok first thing's first.... in order for your colt to be a dun one of his parents MUST be a dun. Dun doesn't skip generations and the mare in that picture is not a dun, so if the stud wasn't a dun then your colt is not a dun. personally, i think he looks like your classic chestnut but you have to wait for his foal coat to shed off before you'll see his true color. sorrels and chesnuts are the same genetically, but sorrel is a light redish color and their manes and tails are lighter than their bodies (can range from slight tint difference to red body with white/flaxen mane and tail). chestnuts are darker brownish red to almost black with matching mane and tail. i think the stripe you're seeing is just counter shading in his foal coat and will go away once he sheds off. it's quite common that chestnuts are born with a dorsal stripe that sheds off with the foal coat. some never shed off but that still doesn't make them a red dun. a true dun has a dorsal and zebra stripes on the legs. the AQHA color guide mentions chestnuts with dorsal stripes.
**buckskin and dun are NOT the same thing and are two separate genetic make-ups. a buckskin carries the creme gene and the agouti gene. a dun carries the dun gene and may also carry the roan trait. it's possible for a buckskin to also carry the dun gene but that color is called dunskin and is usually pretty obvious on a mature horse. a plain buckskin horse would not produce a dun colt from a chestnut mare (the mare in this pic is a chestnut)
Reply:Red dun has a stripe that goes down the back and sometimes on the legs like a buckskin, only the stripe is a darker shade of red then the body color. The mane and tail are also this color.
Sorrel has a reddish brown body and a flaxen mane and tail. Flaxen is a pale yellow to white.
Chestnut can be several shades of brown, from liver, which is almost a chocolate brown to lighter shades. However, the mane and tail are the same color as the body.
Your little one looks chestnut, but after it has it's first shed it might be a little different. In the picture there does seem to be a dorsal stripe. Was either of the parents a buckskin or have it in the background?
Reply:What a sweetheart! It's kinda hard to tell from the pic but from your description I would say red dun. A sorrel is a lighter brown with a blonde or flaxen mane and tail and a chestnut is a red/brown with the same colour mane and tail. The darker stripe down his back gives him definition as a dun
Reply:Red- is more of a redish color
Dun- a buckskin
Sorrel-like a chesnut with white speckles
Chestnut- Is brownish orange
PICTURES-http://www.freewebs.com/thesaddlesisters...
Reply:Hi,
I agree, he looks sorrel. As was mentioned, one of the foal's parents must be a dun for the foal to be a dun. I am going through a similar circumstance at this moment, I have a bay mare who had a bright orange colt on May 16. He is a totally different color than your colt, and his sire IS a red dun(red duns like any other color of horse, comes in different shades of red...)
Here is a link to a pic of my colt and his sire beside him, and my own SORREL stallion below the pics of the red dun.I hope this helps.
http://dpquarterhorses.info/billie1.htm
My colt has a dorsal stripe, shoulder shading and his body color is lighter on his under belly, and he has faint stirpes on his legs. But so far nobody has said he was anything but sorrel, because I intentionally did not mention that his sire WAS a red dun. I suggest doing what I am going to do, and pull some mane or tail hairs from the sire AND the dam and send them to UC Davis for testing for dun factor. You can get the info on colors and testing forms from here :
http://www.vgl.ucdavis.edu/services/dunh...
My horse Millie just had her filly foal and I just cant seem to come up with anything to name her. Any ideas?
So far, her name is Abagail and Abba for short, but it just doesnt seem to fit right. Her mom is named Millie and her dad is named Melvin. She is a light sorrel with 3 white socks. She also has a star and a snip on her face. If anyone has any ideas of a cute, girly name for her I'd love to know it!
My horse Millie just had her filly foal and I just cant seem to come up with anything to name her. Any ideas?
i know shooting star!!
Reply:Bubbles or Petunia
Reply:Mellie.
Reply:daybreak or um.. mandy? or magical mist???
Reply:Breezy and Misty are nice... or maybe Skye? Bubbles is nice if you want something kind of cute! Anyways, good luck! She sounds like a beautiful little foal. Definitly pay attention to her personality. You wouldn't want to name a shy horse Thunder! ;p
Reply:You could name her after a celebrity (i would choose noel fielding if it was a boy) or one of your friends or old family, i.e your grandma) but i think star or wish would be nice names!
Reply:LILY!
Reply:You should name your horse ethier Penny or Chestnut you could also name her Socks.
Reply:Millie's filly... how cute. Since both mom and dad is a M why not stick with the M for her name too?
Reply:Millie and tilly or stay with the M theme and use my name melissa or u could call her M%26amp;M after her parents. I even like estrella which means star in spanish
Reply:Bucks, Beezie, Calamitty Jane, Hajra, once you get to know her better and her personality really shows you'll get the perfect name for her. Skittles and Popcorn are cute, well to me:)
Reply:poo on that donkey yeha
casual shoes
My horse Millie just had her filly foal and I just cant seem to come up with anything to name her. Any ideas?
i know shooting star!!
Reply:Bubbles or Petunia
Reply:Mellie.
Reply:daybreak or um.. mandy? or magical mist???
Reply:Breezy and Misty are nice... or maybe Skye? Bubbles is nice if you want something kind of cute! Anyways, good luck! She sounds like a beautiful little foal. Definitly pay attention to her personality. You wouldn't want to name a shy horse Thunder! ;p
Reply:You could name her after a celebrity (i would choose noel fielding if it was a boy) or one of your friends or old family, i.e your grandma) but i think star or wish would be nice names!
Reply:LILY!
Reply:You should name your horse ethier Penny or Chestnut you could also name her Socks.
Reply:Millie's filly... how cute. Since both mom and dad is a M why not stick with the M for her name too?
Reply:Millie and tilly or stay with the M theme and use my name melissa or u could call her M%26amp;M after her parents. I even like estrella which means star in spanish
Reply:Bucks, Beezie, Calamitty Jane, Hajra, once you get to know her better and her personality really shows you'll get the perfect name for her. Skittles and Popcorn are cute, well to me:)
Reply:poo on that donkey yeha
casual shoes
Is sorrel better then cranberry?
does it contain more v-c
Is sorrel better then cranberry?
There are different plants called sorrel:
Oxalis- and Rumex- species ( the leaves are used ) and Hibiscus sabdariffa, cultivated for its fleshy calyxes used in tarts and jelly and for its bast fiber. I suppose, that`s the one you ask for.
Cranberries, the fruits of Vaccinium macrocarpon, contain 7-38mg/% vit.C and the Red Sorrel 2,5-10mg/%
Both have their own place for kitchen use and as medical herb ( different taste,different effects ), so the higher Vit.C content of cranberries is the only criterium, which makes them "better".
Reply:no, but it taste better.
Is sorrel better then cranberry?
There are different plants called sorrel:
Oxalis- and Rumex- species ( the leaves are used ) and Hibiscus sabdariffa, cultivated for its fleshy calyxes used in tarts and jelly and for its bast fiber. I suppose, that`s the one you ask for.
Cranberries, the fruits of Vaccinium macrocarpon, contain 7-38mg/% vit.C and the Red Sorrel 2,5-10mg/%
Both have their own place for kitchen use and as medical herb ( different taste,different effects ), so the higher Vit.C content of cranberries is the only criterium, which makes them "better".
Reply:no, but it taste better.
What is a good name for a QH Stud Colt?
We have a sorrel stud colt that we are getting ready to register. He is out of a Zan Par Bar mare and a Skipper W stud. Barn name ideas are also appreciated.
What is a good name for a QH Stud Colt?
Skip The Bar
In Zane Bar Skipper (supposed to say insane bar skipper)
Reply:Skip the Bar aka Skip
Reply:If your looking to get him into big names, Dont rename him after another horse that was once famous. like zans-a-bar. I have had friends sewed before by the actual owners finding out someone took their prize horses name. and tried to show them in it.
Reply:Rio.
I've always liked that name. It's simple and when spoken, it's very distinctive to a horse's ear.
You know what, I've had quarters all my life and am so tired of trying to figure out names to put on a registration application. I know it matters, but geez-l it gets old.
I was just looking at the other entries....... I guess your barn name is supposed to be some derivative of your registered name..... Oops, no wonder my horse is confused.
His registered name is Pocos Admiral Jet, but I call him Cracker.
: 0 )
Happy Horsin' Around and Merry Christmas
Reply:Not A Bar Skipper... AQHA I think has to be 18 letters w/ spaces.
Reply:skippin zan bar
zans-a-bar
OMG idk about the zans a bar
Reply:skip the bar
skip to the bar
Bar skipper
Par skipper
skipping par
barn names skip, zan, skippy
Reply:Tango.
Reply:Smokey, or spelled a different way, Smoky
What is a good name for a QH Stud Colt?
Skip The Bar
In Zane Bar Skipper (supposed to say insane bar skipper)
Reply:Skip the Bar aka Skip
Reply:If your looking to get him into big names, Dont rename him after another horse that was once famous. like zans-a-bar. I have had friends sewed before by the actual owners finding out someone took their prize horses name. and tried to show them in it.
Reply:Rio.
I've always liked that name. It's simple and when spoken, it's very distinctive to a horse's ear.
You know what, I've had quarters all my life and am so tired of trying to figure out names to put on a registration application. I know it matters, but geez-l it gets old.
I was just looking at the other entries....... I guess your barn name is supposed to be some derivative of your registered name..... Oops, no wonder my horse is confused.
His registered name is Pocos Admiral Jet, but I call him Cracker.
: 0 )
Happy Horsin' Around and Merry Christmas
Reply:Not A Bar Skipper... AQHA I think has to be 18 letters w/ spaces.
Reply:skippin zan bar
zans-a-bar
OMG idk about the zans a bar
Reply:skip the bar
skip to the bar
Bar skipper
Par skipper
skipping par
barn names skip, zan, skippy
Reply:Tango.
Reply:Smokey, or spelled a different way, Smoky
What do you think of the book Dragon Rider by Cornelia Funke?
Very very good book. But I thought the brownie that had 6 arms was weird. Anyway, LOVED Sorrel's humor and attitude.
What do you think of the book Dragon Rider by Cornelia Funke?
it was a pretty good book, but i can't remember a 6 armed brownie anywhere in the book... burr burr chan had 4 and sorrel had 2. i wonder what twigleg was made of though... anyways, check out her website.
Reply:I really did love that book! and the author is GREAT! she's the one who wrote Inkheart...have you read it?
Reply:I liked the book a lot too! It was full of adventure and most of all, lots of fun to read. If you want a "happy" book this is it!
Have you read his other books?
Also, you might like Eragon by Christopher Paolini.
Reply:Th cover looks kinda corny and cartoonish...
What do you think of the book Dragon Rider by Cornelia Funke?
it was a pretty good book, but i can't remember a 6 armed brownie anywhere in the book... burr burr chan had 4 and sorrel had 2. i wonder what twigleg was made of though... anyways, check out her website.
Reply:I really did love that book! and the author is GREAT! she's the one who wrote Inkheart...have you read it?
Reply:I liked the book a lot too! It was full of adventure and most of all, lots of fun to read. If you want a "happy" book this is it!
Have you read his other books?
Also, you might like Eragon by Christopher Paolini.
Reply:Th cover looks kinda corny and cartoonish...
Is sour greens/sorrel greens available in Australia? If so, does anybody know where can I buy the seeds/plans?
Details of the plant are
Botanical name: Hibiscus cannabinus belongs to Roselle family.
sorrel greens/ sour greens
It's used extensively in south-indian cuisine and key feature is its leaves taste lemoney and tangy.
It gives delicious flavour to meat (Lamb/goat) , Lentils or even tastes great, just as a pickle.
Is sour greens/sorrel greens available in Australia? If so, does anybody know where can I buy the seeds/plans?
I'm sorry I dont know what plant you are talking about. However I have recently bought several types of leafy green seedlings from Bunnings.I don't know the exact name of them but one type is sour.
Have you tried farmer markets? Sorrell is grown in the wild in England in wet, cold marsh land. Maybe try an English deli.
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Botanical name: Hibiscus cannabinus belongs to Roselle family.
sorrel greens/ sour greens
It's used extensively in south-indian cuisine and key feature is its leaves taste lemoney and tangy.
It gives delicious flavour to meat (Lamb/goat) , Lentils or even tastes great, just as a pickle.
Is sour greens/sorrel greens available in Australia? If so, does anybody know where can I buy the seeds/plans?
I'm sorry I dont know what plant you are talking about. However I have recently bought several types of leafy green seedlings from Bunnings.I don't know the exact name of them but one type is sour.
Have you tried farmer markets? Sorrell is grown in the wild in England in wet, cold marsh land. Maybe try an English deli.
Local Dentist
Does the sorrel's front left foreleg look crooked?
http://www.hindu.com/mp/2004/03/15/image...
Does the sorrel's front left foreleg look crooked?
The chestnut is definetly splay footed, but that's the least of the problems on those two horses. They both look starved, sick, and on death's door.
Reply:it does look crooked, and the horse also looks poorly fed
Reply:Im not sure what its called when their feet are like that. I know pigeon toed is when their feet stick in, but im not completely sure what its called when there feet stick out.
Although that horse looks malnurished
Reply:well actually there are horses that naturally have the outward bend to their feet.
but them horses do look in very bad shape, i hope they are beeing tooken care of proberly...
Reply:A crooked leg is the least of his worries I would venture to say.
And my mules think they are abused *rolls eyes*
(going to print picture to show mules how blessed they truely are)
Reply:Sorry to be pedantic but 'front left foreleg' is tautological.
Also, sorry if I seem sceptical but exactly why have you have posted this photo twice - are you geniunely interested in the state of these horses' health and conformation or are you having a laugh?
Reply:ya and they look extremely malnurished and his/her front left foreleg also looks bloody. they are in serious need of ventranairy care!
Reply:Yes, that horse looks not only like he toes out badly but he is also in need of hoof care and some groceries.
Reply:yea
Reply:It could just be standing that way. I have seen horses with perfectly straight legs stand funny, but it bears watching when the animal moves. If it is kept this way then YES!
Reply:yes and it is very malnourished
Does the sorrel's front left foreleg look crooked?
The chestnut is definetly splay footed, but that's the least of the problems on those two horses. They both look starved, sick, and on death's door.
Reply:it does look crooked, and the horse also looks poorly fed
Reply:Im not sure what its called when their feet are like that. I know pigeon toed is when their feet stick in, but im not completely sure what its called when there feet stick out.
Although that horse looks malnurished
Reply:well actually there are horses that naturally have the outward bend to their feet.
but them horses do look in very bad shape, i hope they are beeing tooken care of proberly...
Reply:A crooked leg is the least of his worries I would venture to say.
And my mules think they are abused *rolls eyes*
(going to print picture to show mules how blessed they truely are)
Reply:Sorry to be pedantic but 'front left foreleg' is tautological.
Also, sorry if I seem sceptical but exactly why have you have posted this photo twice - are you geniunely interested in the state of these horses' health and conformation or are you having a laugh?
Reply:ya and they look extremely malnurished and his/her front left foreleg also looks bloody. they are in serious need of ventranairy care!
Reply:Yes, that horse looks not only like he toes out badly but he is also in need of hoof care and some groceries.
Reply:yea
Reply:It could just be standing that way. I have seen horses with perfectly straight legs stand funny, but it bears watching when the animal moves. If it is kept this way then YES!
Reply:yes and it is very malnourished
What is the name of a cold russian soup made from bitter or sour leaves?
My russian grandmother used to make a soup pronounced "Cheveyal" or "Shevel". It was made from these green leaves that were sour/bitter. I want to know what these leaves/plant are. I thought it was Sorrel but its not. Any ideas. Its a very popular village soup that russians and ukranians make?
What is the name of a cold russian soup made from bitter or sour leaves?
sorrel is an herb. try wiki's here they do have some list of soup cold or hot from russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cui...
Reply:Russian щавель (schavel') is sorrel :-) You can look in a Russian-English dictionary.
Spring sorrel soup
http://ashy-macbean.com/soups/sorrelsoup...
Sorrel soup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel_soup
Frances Malkowicz's Polish Sorrel Soup
http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/ubbs/archiv...
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Reply:The name of the soup you are looking for is okroshka. One of the herbs used is chervil. It is made with sour milk.
What is the name of a cold russian soup made from bitter or sour leaves?
sorrel is an herb. try wiki's here they do have some list of soup cold or hot from russia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cui...
Reply:Russian щавель (schavel') is sorrel :-) You can look in a Russian-English dictionary.
Spring sorrel soup
http://ashy-macbean.com/soups/sorrelsoup...
Sorrel soup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel_soup
Frances Malkowicz's Polish Sorrel Soup
http://www.cyber-kitchen.com/ubbs/archiv...
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Reply:The name of the soup you are looking for is okroshka. One of the herbs used is chervil. It is made with sour milk.
What do the white horses, red horses, and sorrel horses represent in the Bible?
What do the white, red, and Sorrel horses in Zachariah 1:8 symbolize?
What do the white horses, red horses, and sorrel horses represent in the Bible?
The Pulpit Commentary Volume 14 has some interesting insights. There seem to be three basic schools of thought:
1. That this particular group represents Israel at a low point in her history (down among the myrtles) but still loved (myrtles are fragrant). The red horse representing the blood covering of the covenant with the attendant colors possibly representing righteousness (white) and the meeting of heaven and earth (sorrel).
2. That the colors of the horses represent the kingdoms of that day and the days ahead (like Daniel's prophecies).
3. That the red represented war, white - death and sorrel - famine. In this instance they rode out and reported that the earth was at peace presently but by their very presence a time of great conflict was eventually coming.
Personally - I don't see why all three can't be true all at the same time. God's Word is in layers with many messages to speak to many situations and people all at one time.
Reply:check out the meaning of these in the book of revelation
Reply:The Apocalypse
Reply:i dont no
Reply:In verse 10, it says "They are the ones the LORD has sent to go throughout the earth."
In Revelation, there's another vision of horses and riders; the red horse %26amp; rider represented war, the white horse %26amp; rider represented the Antichrist.
Not sure about the sorrel one. Hope that helps
What do the white horses, red horses, and sorrel horses represent in the Bible?
The Pulpit Commentary Volume 14 has some interesting insights. There seem to be three basic schools of thought:
1. That this particular group represents Israel at a low point in her history (down among the myrtles) but still loved (myrtles are fragrant). The red horse representing the blood covering of the covenant with the attendant colors possibly representing righteousness (white) and the meeting of heaven and earth (sorrel).
2. That the colors of the horses represent the kingdoms of that day and the days ahead (like Daniel's prophecies).
3. That the red represented war, white - death and sorrel - famine. In this instance they rode out and reported that the earth was at peace presently but by their very presence a time of great conflict was eventually coming.
Personally - I don't see why all three can't be true all at the same time. God's Word is in layers with many messages to speak to many situations and people all at one time.
Reply:check out the meaning of these in the book of revelation
Reply:The Apocalypse
Reply:i dont no
Reply:In verse 10, it says "They are the ones the LORD has sent to go throughout the earth."
In Revelation, there's another vision of horses and riders; the red horse %26amp; rider represented war, the white horse %26amp; rider represented the Antichrist.
Not sure about the sorrel one. Hope that helps
Show name for sorrel mare?
I am trying to think of a show name for my sorrel saddlebredXqh mare named Star. She is good at jumpers. She loves going VERY fast! She is spunky, and she is 14.2 hh. I'm trying to think of a name along the lines of Tiny Jumper, or something with her name in it, although it does not have to be related to those. All suggestions welcome!
Show name for sorrel mare?
Starry Eyed Surprise
Tiny Dancer
Little Jumpin Bean
My Only Shining Star
Made You Look
Tag, You're It
Looks Can Be Decieving
Wanna Race?
Let's Tango
Just Another Pretty Face
Starry Knight
Night Mare
August Rush
Must Be Magic
Steal the Show
Star of the Show
On Broadway
Hollywood Star
Tiny Dancer
All My Lovin'
Touch of Class
Finders Keepers
Hope you like them!! Good luck!!!
Reply:Jumping The Night Away
Stars Streaming Song
Meteor Shower
The North Star
Arora Borealis (the beautiful thing that happens in the sky)
thats all i can think of!
Reply:how about Dream jumper or Star light dream
Reply:Jumpers Star
Star Jumper
Tiny Star
Jumpers Tiny Star
Reply:Shooting Star
Shoot for the Stars
Star to Star
Star-power
Reply:You want jumpers in it?
What about Jumpers Dream Star? I know its kind of dumb but you'll have her name and what she does in it!?
Good Luck!
Reply:Jumping Star, Star Jumper, Little Jumps Big, Tiny Jumps Tall.
Reply:Shining Star?
Reply:Speed of Light?
(star..light, fast..speed)
Reply:Never been very good with names HEHE :)! Good Luck!
Reply:Leaping Star
Reply:tiny star.
Reply:Star's Tiny Jumper???
Star Dancer
sorry i am VERY bad at names!!
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Show name for sorrel mare?
Starry Eyed Surprise
Tiny Dancer
Little Jumpin Bean
My Only Shining Star
Made You Look
Tag, You're It
Looks Can Be Decieving
Wanna Race?
Let's Tango
Just Another Pretty Face
Starry Knight
Night Mare
August Rush
Must Be Magic
Steal the Show
Star of the Show
On Broadway
Hollywood Star
Tiny Dancer
All My Lovin'
Touch of Class
Finders Keepers
Hope you like them!! Good luck!!!
Reply:Jumping The Night Away
Stars Streaming Song
Meteor Shower
The North Star
Arora Borealis (the beautiful thing that happens in the sky)
thats all i can think of!
Reply:how about Dream jumper or Star light dream
Reply:Jumpers Star
Star Jumper
Tiny Star
Jumpers Tiny Star
Reply:Shooting Star
Shoot for the Stars
Star to Star
Star-power
Reply:You want jumpers in it?
What about Jumpers Dream Star? I know its kind of dumb but you'll have her name and what she does in it!?
Good Luck!
Reply:Jumping Star, Star Jumper, Little Jumps Big, Tiny Jumps Tall.
Reply:Shining Star?
Reply:Speed of Light?
(star..light, fast..speed)
Reply:Never been very good with names HEHE :)! Good Luck!
Reply:Leaping Star
Reply:tiny star.
Reply:Star's Tiny Jumper???
Star Dancer
sorry i am VERY bad at names!!
boots
Can the tropical fruit sorrel help to lose weight in any way? If so how.?
Eating more fruit and less charbohidrats helps you to lose weight, becaus fruits doesn´t have insaturated fats. They are rich in febre ... fibra... content.. they are also rich on vitamins, antioxidants and helps you to improve your digestion.
Can the tropical fruit sorrel help to lose weight in any way? If so how.?
The tropical fruit that can make you loose weight is pineaple...
Have only pineapple for two days, it takes the fat out of the cells. Then eat pineapple twice a day, and reduce the amout of carbs for a week.
You will loose 5 pounds per week if you do it..
Can the tropical fruit sorrel help to lose weight in any way? If so how.?
The tropical fruit that can make you loose weight is pineaple...
Have only pineapple for two days, it takes the fat out of the cells. Then eat pineapple twice a day, and reduce the amout of carbs for a week.
You will loose 5 pounds per week if you do it..
Difference between sorrel and chestnut?
do YOU think there is a difference if so y and if not y\
i dont they seem like the same exact thing to me
Difference between sorrel and chestnut?
i dont think there is really a difference. they all have red in there coats.
Reply:Some breed associations don't recognize sorrel as a color, so everything is registered as chestnut. The stock horse breeds like quarter horses, paints, appys, etc recognize sorrel as a different color than chestnut.
Sorrel is usually a lighter, more orange shade, and the mane and tail are usually the same color, or lighter (like with flaxen in it).
Chestnut is usually a darker, more red shade and the mane and tail will typically be the same color, or slightly darker (although you can get a chestnut with flaxen mane/tail, but its not as common).
So you see a horse the color of a new penny....sorrel.....if you see a more burnt reddish brown, call it chestnut.
Good luck!
Reply:According to the Jockey Club (Thoroughbred Registery) there is ONLY chestnut. However, AQHA and APHA define Sorrel as a RED horse with the same shade of legs (Unless they have white) as the body colour and it can have a blonde mane and tail. Chestnut is much less RED in the coat. Think Hershey's milk chocolate colour.
Hope this helps.
Reply:Everyone has different opinions in this.
Generally, when both "chestnut" and "sorrel" are used, "chestnut" is restricted to darker reds and "sorrel" to light, clear reds. Any chestnut or sorrel can have a mane and tail that are dark (tostado), medium (alazan), or flaxen (ruano). However, flaxen manes and tails are more common in horses with lighter colored bodies. Typical color definitions are given below. (From _Horse Color_ and _The Horse_)
Liver chestnut -- the darkest of the red shades, a distinctive murky red/black. Very dark shades can look almost black.
Chestnut -- deep red coat. Variations include "dark chestnut" and "red chestnut". Sometimes called "cherry sorrel". If the horse has lighter colored legs than the body, this color may confusingly be called "chestnut sorrel".
Sorrel -- clear orange coat, often with lighter colored legs. Often called "light chestnut" in those breeds that don't use the word "sorrel". Difficult to distinguish from a true light chestnut, but is more yellowish, showing little or no red. Mane and tail are often the same as the body, or can be flaxen. May appear similar to dark palomino.
Light sorrel -- a strawberry blonde color, also called "orange".
Blond sorrel -- light sandy red with pale areas around the eyes, muzzle, and flanks, and with pale legs. Common in American Belgians. (This is genetically caused by the action of the P pangare gene on a flaxen-maned chestnut, ee ff.)
Dun horses can have similar body and point colors as chestnuts and sorrels (especially red duns), but duns typically have dorsal stripes. Horses lighter than blond sorrel can be yellow or claybank duns (including palomino), perlinos and cremellos, and finally whites and aged greys.
Reply:Here is a:
Chestnut:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chestnut_(c...
Sorrel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel_%28h...
They are the same it seems on here. I hope I helped. ummm...I agree with the second person. Sorrel is for western and chestnut is for english riding.
Reply:CHESTNUT: SLIGHTY LIGHTER THEN SORREL, WITH A LIGHT BROWN(GOLDENY) MANE, TAIL AND FOOT HAIR.
http://eventersforsale.com/chestnut%20ho...
SORREL: DARKER SHADE OF CHESTNUT WITH RELITVLY DARK TAIL, FOOT HAIR AND MANE.
http://www.camppeniel.org/Horse/LEGGS_m....
THAT'S THE PUREBREEDS BUT MOST OF THEM NOWADAYS ARE ALL DIFFERENT SHADES AND COLOURS LIKE THIS ONE...
http://www.thisisct.net/images/animals29...
IT HAS DARK BROWN HAIR AND A CHESTNUT BODY!
Reply:I have always been taught that a chestnut has a light mane and tail and a sorrel has a dark mane and tail. The sorrel is also generally darker.
Chestnut:
http://www.pencilwork.co.uk/oil-05.gif
Sorrel:
http://www.camppeniel.org/Horse/ROCKY_m....
That is just how we defined it where I grew up.
Reply:It will depend largely on whether your horse is Jockey Club registered or AQHA registered.
If it's a TB, it's chestnut. If QH, it's sorrel.
I've always called the richly colored ones 'chestnut' and the light washed out ones 'sorrel'
Reply:In the Arabian world, they are all chestnuts. I had two Quarterhorses. One was chocolate brown and registered chestnut. The other was copper penny and was registered sorrel. So to me, a brown color is chestnut and a red color is sorrel.
Reply:Potato...Potahto...
My horse is registered as a sorrel with AQHA and NFQHA...
http://i32.tinypic.com/250p192.jpg
She is obviously a darker red with darker mane and tail. I'm happy with the word 'sorrel.' It's what the AQHA designated her when I sent in her pictures...
Reply:I always considered sorrel to have more of a reddish tint and the chestnut to have more of a brown tint, but they were both close in color...
I see a lot of people use the terms interchangeably though.
Reply:I thought that chestnut and sorrel were the same thing, with chestnut being the English word and sorrel being the Western word. Some of the real color experts might quibble that there is a difference.
Reply:If the mane and tail are orangy looking, it is a sorrell. With a chestnut, there is no hint of orange.
Reply:Chestnut is brown / red with a dark mane and tail, sorrel is more orange with a light mane and tail.
Reply:I'm English - as far as I know sorrel is American for chestnut.
( sorry if I'm wrong here guys !)
Edit - one day you will get that thumb stuck- asshat
Reply:there is no difference, both are the same color, but western people call it sorrel, and english people call it chestnut!
Reply:Same thing ...western people call them Sorrel , English folks call them Chestnut....Same color!
Reply:i believe the sorrel is lighter more like a polomino
the chestnut is darker?
Reply:All I know is that they are both shades of brown!!!
Reply:my 2 year old horse is a sorrel and has a light mane
i dont they seem like the same exact thing to me
Difference between sorrel and chestnut?
i dont think there is really a difference. they all have red in there coats.
Reply:Some breed associations don't recognize sorrel as a color, so everything is registered as chestnut. The stock horse breeds like quarter horses, paints, appys, etc recognize sorrel as a different color than chestnut.
Sorrel is usually a lighter, more orange shade, and the mane and tail are usually the same color, or lighter (like with flaxen in it).
Chestnut is usually a darker, more red shade and the mane and tail will typically be the same color, or slightly darker (although you can get a chestnut with flaxen mane/tail, but its not as common).
So you see a horse the color of a new penny....sorrel.....if you see a more burnt reddish brown, call it chestnut.
Good luck!
Reply:According to the Jockey Club (Thoroughbred Registery) there is ONLY chestnut. However, AQHA and APHA define Sorrel as a RED horse with the same shade of legs (Unless they have white) as the body colour and it can have a blonde mane and tail. Chestnut is much less RED in the coat. Think Hershey's milk chocolate colour.
Hope this helps.
Reply:Everyone has different opinions in this.
Generally, when both "chestnut" and "sorrel" are used, "chestnut" is restricted to darker reds and "sorrel" to light, clear reds. Any chestnut or sorrel can have a mane and tail that are dark (tostado), medium (alazan), or flaxen (ruano). However, flaxen manes and tails are more common in horses with lighter colored bodies. Typical color definitions are given below. (From _Horse Color_ and _The Horse_)
Liver chestnut -- the darkest of the red shades, a distinctive murky red/black. Very dark shades can look almost black.
Chestnut -- deep red coat. Variations include "dark chestnut" and "red chestnut". Sometimes called "cherry sorrel". If the horse has lighter colored legs than the body, this color may confusingly be called "chestnut sorrel".
Sorrel -- clear orange coat, often with lighter colored legs. Often called "light chestnut" in those breeds that don't use the word "sorrel". Difficult to distinguish from a true light chestnut, but is more yellowish, showing little or no red. Mane and tail are often the same as the body, or can be flaxen. May appear similar to dark palomino.
Light sorrel -- a strawberry blonde color, also called "orange".
Blond sorrel -- light sandy red with pale areas around the eyes, muzzle, and flanks, and with pale legs. Common in American Belgians. (This is genetically caused by the action of the P pangare gene on a flaxen-maned chestnut, ee ff.)
Dun horses can have similar body and point colors as chestnuts and sorrels (especially red duns), but duns typically have dorsal stripes. Horses lighter than blond sorrel can be yellow or claybank duns (including palomino), perlinos and cremellos, and finally whites and aged greys.
Reply:Here is a:
Chestnut:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chestnut_(c...
Sorrel:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel_%28h...
They are the same it seems on here. I hope I helped. ummm...I agree with the second person. Sorrel is for western and chestnut is for english riding.
Reply:CHESTNUT: SLIGHTY LIGHTER THEN SORREL, WITH A LIGHT BROWN(GOLDENY) MANE, TAIL AND FOOT HAIR.
http://eventersforsale.com/chestnut%20ho...
SORREL: DARKER SHADE OF CHESTNUT WITH RELITVLY DARK TAIL, FOOT HAIR AND MANE.
http://www.camppeniel.org/Horse/LEGGS_m....
THAT'S THE PUREBREEDS BUT MOST OF THEM NOWADAYS ARE ALL DIFFERENT SHADES AND COLOURS LIKE THIS ONE...
http://www.thisisct.net/images/animals29...
IT HAS DARK BROWN HAIR AND A CHESTNUT BODY!
Reply:I have always been taught that a chestnut has a light mane and tail and a sorrel has a dark mane and tail. The sorrel is also generally darker.
Chestnut:
http://www.pencilwork.co.uk/oil-05.gif
Sorrel:
http://www.camppeniel.org/Horse/ROCKY_m....
That is just how we defined it where I grew up.
Reply:It will depend largely on whether your horse is Jockey Club registered or AQHA registered.
If it's a TB, it's chestnut. If QH, it's sorrel.
I've always called the richly colored ones 'chestnut' and the light washed out ones 'sorrel'
Reply:In the Arabian world, they are all chestnuts. I had two Quarterhorses. One was chocolate brown and registered chestnut. The other was copper penny and was registered sorrel. So to me, a brown color is chestnut and a red color is sorrel.
Reply:Potato...Potahto...
My horse is registered as a sorrel with AQHA and NFQHA...
http://i32.tinypic.com/250p192.jpg
She is obviously a darker red with darker mane and tail. I'm happy with the word 'sorrel.' It's what the AQHA designated her when I sent in her pictures...
Reply:I always considered sorrel to have more of a reddish tint and the chestnut to have more of a brown tint, but they were both close in color...
I see a lot of people use the terms interchangeably though.
Reply:I thought that chestnut and sorrel were the same thing, with chestnut being the English word and sorrel being the Western word. Some of the real color experts might quibble that there is a difference.
Reply:If the mane and tail are orangy looking, it is a sorrell. With a chestnut, there is no hint of orange.
Reply:Chestnut is brown / red with a dark mane and tail, sorrel is more orange with a light mane and tail.
Reply:I'm English - as far as I know sorrel is American for chestnut.
( sorry if I'm wrong here guys !)
Edit - one day you will get that thumb stuck- asshat
Reply:there is no difference, both are the same color, but western people call it sorrel, and english people call it chestnut!
Reply:Same thing ...western people call them Sorrel , English folks call them Chestnut....Same color!
Reply:i believe the sorrel is lighter more like a polomino
the chestnut is darker?
Reply:All I know is that they are both shades of brown!!!
Reply:my 2 year old horse is a sorrel and has a light mane
What is sorrel good for?
Are there any medical benefits to using sorrel?
What is sorrel good for?
There are several plants called sorrel:
Rumex Acetosa.—Sorrel:
Fresh sorrel leaves are refrigerant and diuretic. An infusion is useful in febrile and inflammatory diseases, and in scorbutic diseases. Externally, the bruised leaves or inspissated juice have been found useful as an application to scrofulous, malignant, and indolent ulcers. Wrapped up and roasted, the leaves form an excellent application to indolent tumors, wens, boils, etc., hastening suppuration. Bloodcleansing and Blood improving qualities
But be carefull:
Ingestion of the plant produces burning in the mouth and poisoning (Watt %26amp; Breyer-Brandwijk 1962). When eaten as pot-herbs or greens, the plant can produce dermatitis in "susceptible" individuals (Allen 1943, Muenscher 1951, Behl et al. 1966).
Avoid over use if you are predisposed to rheumatism, arthritis, gout, kidney stones or gastric hyperacidity due to its oxalic acid content
Oxalis.—Wood-Sorrel
The several varieties of sorrel are cooling and diuretic. Useful in febrile diseases, hemorrhages, gonorrhoea, chronic catarrh, urinary affections, and in scurvy, it may be used in infusion, or it may be infused in milk to form whey, or the herb may be eaten, but in neither case to excess, on account of the potassium binoxalate they contain. Externally, the bruised leaves or inspissated juice have been found useful as an application to scrofulous, malignant, and indolent ulcers.
Same warning like Rumex!
Hibiscus sabdariffa, Red Sorrel:
The third sorrel called plant has antiscorbutic ( high content of Vit.C ), adstringent, diuretic, febrifuge and stomachic properties
Reply:I'm not sure but it makes an awesome drink. Soak them in hot water and after a day mix and strain...add sugar. it's awesome
What is sorrel good for?
There are several plants called sorrel:
Rumex Acetosa.—Sorrel:
Fresh sorrel leaves are refrigerant and diuretic. An infusion is useful in febrile and inflammatory diseases, and in scorbutic diseases. Externally, the bruised leaves or inspissated juice have been found useful as an application to scrofulous, malignant, and indolent ulcers. Wrapped up and roasted, the leaves form an excellent application to indolent tumors, wens, boils, etc., hastening suppuration. Bloodcleansing and Blood improving qualities
But be carefull:
Ingestion of the plant produces burning in the mouth and poisoning (Watt %26amp; Breyer-Brandwijk 1962). When eaten as pot-herbs or greens, the plant can produce dermatitis in "susceptible" individuals (Allen 1943, Muenscher 1951, Behl et al. 1966).
Avoid over use if you are predisposed to rheumatism, arthritis, gout, kidney stones or gastric hyperacidity due to its oxalic acid content
Oxalis.—Wood-Sorrel
The several varieties of sorrel are cooling and diuretic. Useful in febrile diseases, hemorrhages, gonorrhoea, chronic catarrh, urinary affections, and in scurvy, it may be used in infusion, or it may be infused in milk to form whey, or the herb may be eaten, but in neither case to excess, on account of the potassium binoxalate they contain. Externally, the bruised leaves or inspissated juice have been found useful as an application to scrofulous, malignant, and indolent ulcers.
Same warning like Rumex!
Hibiscus sabdariffa, Red Sorrel:
The third sorrel called plant has antiscorbutic ( high content of Vit.C ), adstringent, diuretic, febrifuge and stomachic properties
Reply:I'm not sure but it makes an awesome drink. Soak them in hot water and after a day mix and strain...add sugar. it's awesome
Can sorrel horses show dappels?
One of mine is a sorrel...and when the sun hits her...you can see the dapples. So...yes.
Can sorrel horses show dappels?
My girl is sort of halfway between a sorrel and a chocolate palomino, and in the summer she gets super dappled! It is so cute. You cannot notice it in the winter though.
So the answer is yes. HAPPY RIDING!
EDIT: I think I have a thumbs down troll. All my answers are getting thumbs down. I said the same thing as everyone else! What is up with that?
EDIT: Sorry for ranting.
EDIT: And thanks to the person who gave me a thumbs up. Sorry about the whole sissy fit I just threw. Having a bad day...
Reply:yes~here are some horses!
http://www.icelandichorse.is/VindurEnni....
http://www.rowangarth.com/images/horses/...
Hope this helps!
Reply:I was told by an old horseman that if you can see the dapples on a horse it is very healthy. Im waiting on my sorrels dapples,(I just got her)she just shed out but my little shetland pony has them every year.
Reply:Yup! :) I know at least 3 that do. Like was mentioned before, it's more noticable on some than others. It depends on the horse! :D
Reply:Yes they sure can.lol I had a Sorrel horse that showed Dappels
Reply:Yeah some are more noticable than others though.
Reply:yeah any color can. its called "bloom" and its the healthy shine on a horse's coat.
Reply:Yes. I used to have one that did.
Problem with a/c
Can sorrel horses show dappels?
My girl is sort of halfway between a sorrel and a chocolate palomino, and in the summer she gets super dappled! It is so cute. You cannot notice it in the winter though.
So the answer is yes. HAPPY RIDING!
EDIT: I think I have a thumbs down troll. All my answers are getting thumbs down. I said the same thing as everyone else! What is up with that?
EDIT: Sorry for ranting.
EDIT: And thanks to the person who gave me a thumbs up. Sorry about the whole sissy fit I just threw. Having a bad day...
Reply:yes~here are some horses!
http://www.icelandichorse.is/VindurEnni....
http://www.rowangarth.com/images/horses/...
Hope this helps!
Reply:I was told by an old horseman that if you can see the dapples on a horse it is very healthy. Im waiting on my sorrels dapples,(I just got her)she just shed out but my little shetland pony has them every year.
Reply:Yup! :) I know at least 3 that do. Like was mentioned before, it's more noticable on some than others. It depends on the horse! :D
Reply:Yes they sure can.lol I had a Sorrel horse that showed Dappels
Reply:Yeah some are more noticable than others though.
Reply:yeah any color can. its called "bloom" and its the healthy shine on a horse's coat.
Reply:Yes. I used to have one that did.
Problem with a/c
I need a cool show name for my show horse! 14.2 hh mare! She has an attitude! Sorrel w/ diamond and back socks
She is short and Fat!!! Q.H.
I need a cool show name for my show horse! 14.2 hh mare! She has an attitude! Sorrel w/ diamond and back socks
Backstage Pass(Stage for short is good)
Queen's Dancing Diamond
Outer Limites
Spitfire
Emerald's Diamond(or ruby, something like that)
High Altitude(or Low Altitude)
Diamond's Runway
Skip It
Flying Low
Run Away Lane
that's about all i can think of!
Reply:this might not suit you but:
Miss Fidget
The Fox
Devils Diamond
Fools Gold
Princesses Diamond
Dunno,
but good luck finding a name for her,
Reply:Diamond in the Ruff
Princess Pony
Reply:Scooter Girl, Queen Tutti, Ms. Missy, Awesome Amber, GemStone, StarDust, Silly Skeeter, Star Gazer, Watching The Starz.
Reply:my horses show name is 'isnt she something'
our showjumping one is 'stylish showjumper'
and my friends horses showname is 'lil' white lie' (because her appearence lies cause she looks innocent bu is reaally evil)
buy for your horse i thought of
diamond with attitude
short and simple (you said she was short)
two socks (explains her two back socks)
small socks
(.................'s) lil' lady
gotta have some attitude
point taken
a few that i like
pretty in pink
silver sunrise
twinkle toes
you're beautiful (after the song)
affirmation
silent sorrel
my dia'mante beaty
if you give me her stable name i can think of more im really willing to help you out on this one she sounds gawjus!!!!
xhorseluvva014x
Reply:http://www.horse.com/name.aspx
this site has over 1000 names
Reply:Sea Mist, Mystical Allusion, Animation, Scout out the territory, Idk, whats her barn name?
Reply:Short But Mighty
Mighty Diamond
Short Illusion
Reply:"Diamonds and Glitz", ...... "Diamond Girl",
http://www.completealbumlyrics.com/lyric...
A link to "Diamond Girl" lyrics.....(Seals and Croft)
Reply:Loca Lina
Diamonds n Chrome
Cuz I said so
Reply:Dancing Black Diamonds
Rider Say Sorrel Do
Sitting Sorrel
Diamond Attitude
Reply:Crazy Diamond
Reply:Copper Penny
Diamond Sky
Sparkle Plenty
Flashtime Fancy
Reply:Sassy Diamond, Sassy's Diamond
I need a cool show name for my show horse! 14.2 hh mare! She has an attitude! Sorrel w/ diamond and back socks
Backstage Pass(Stage for short is good)
Queen's Dancing Diamond
Outer Limites
Spitfire
Emerald's Diamond(or ruby, something like that)
High Altitude(or Low Altitude)
Diamond's Runway
Skip It
Flying Low
Run Away Lane
that's about all i can think of!
Reply:this might not suit you but:
Miss Fidget
The Fox
Devils Diamond
Fools Gold
Princesses Diamond
Dunno,
but good luck finding a name for her,
Reply:Diamond in the Ruff
Princess Pony
Reply:Scooter Girl, Queen Tutti, Ms. Missy, Awesome Amber, GemStone, StarDust, Silly Skeeter, Star Gazer, Watching The Starz.
Reply:my horses show name is 'isnt she something'
our showjumping one is 'stylish showjumper'
and my friends horses showname is 'lil' white lie' (because her appearence lies cause she looks innocent bu is reaally evil)
buy for your horse i thought of
diamond with attitude
short and simple (you said she was short)
two socks (explains her two back socks)
small socks
(.................'s) lil' lady
gotta have some attitude
point taken
a few that i like
pretty in pink
silver sunrise
twinkle toes
you're beautiful (after the song)
affirmation
silent sorrel
my dia'mante beaty
if you give me her stable name i can think of more im really willing to help you out on this one she sounds gawjus!!!!
xhorseluvva014x
Reply:http://www.horse.com/name.aspx
this site has over 1000 names
Reply:Sea Mist, Mystical Allusion, Animation, Scout out the territory, Idk, whats her barn name?
Reply:Short But Mighty
Mighty Diamond
Short Illusion
Reply:"Diamonds and Glitz", ...... "Diamond Girl",
http://www.completealbumlyrics.com/lyric...
A link to "Diamond Girl" lyrics.....(Seals and Croft)
Reply:Loca Lina
Diamonds n Chrome
Cuz I said so
Reply:Dancing Black Diamonds
Rider Say Sorrel Do
Sitting Sorrel
Diamond Attitude
Reply:Crazy Diamond
Reply:Copper Penny
Diamond Sky
Sparkle Plenty
Flashtime Fancy
Reply:Sassy Diamond, Sassy's Diamond
Question about SORREL?
Does anybody know why Sorrel is prohibited by the USDA?
Question about SORREL?
I am a former chef and there are two foods named Sorrel or Sorel, one is a green leafy herb and is slightly bitter, used in sauce and is alot like a lettuce, sometimes it is available in a puree at gourmet shops, the other ingredient is Sorel is a flower in the Hybiscus family, found all over the Caribbean and in Hawaii, it is used in drinks and punches, dried and add to a boiled sugar solution is a favortie drink at Xmas in the islands of the Caribbean with a squeeze of lime and sometimes a dash of rum for an adult version.
Why either is not allow by the FDA or USDA is a restricted palnt reason or a health issue, what I do not know, I can buy both here in Toronto Canada, fresh sorrel for cooking and dried and sometimes fresh sorel for making the drinks.
Reply:The real question is: Does anyone know what sorrel is? I don't
Question about SORREL?
I am a former chef and there are two foods named Sorrel or Sorel, one is a green leafy herb and is slightly bitter, used in sauce and is alot like a lettuce, sometimes it is available in a puree at gourmet shops, the other ingredient is Sorel is a flower in the Hybiscus family, found all over the Caribbean and in Hawaii, it is used in drinks and punches, dried and add to a boiled sugar solution is a favortie drink at Xmas in the islands of the Caribbean with a squeeze of lime and sometimes a dash of rum for an adult version.
Why either is not allow by the FDA or USDA is a restricted palnt reason or a health issue, what I do not know, I can buy both here in Toronto Canada, fresh sorrel for cooking and dried and sometimes fresh sorel for making the drinks.
Reply:The real question is: Does anyone know what sorrel is? I don't
If I breed my black & white mare to a Sorrel stallion what is the color would the foal be?
The studs owners should be able to provide you with a record of what colour foals were born to what colour dams. It will help you to determine the likelyhood of what will be produced. I had a bay stallion with no markings that bred greys, chestnuts and other bays and all of his foals were bay with no markings even though all his breedings were to mares with socks, stripes etc.
If I breed my black %26amp; white mare to a Sorrel stallion what is the color would the foal be?
Gray
Reply:it could be sorrel, or black and white... the colors probably wont mix to make like a grey.... but you may even get another color if your mare is a paint
Reply:Excellent Q! Here are the possibilities:
If your black and white mare is a homozygous pinto, the foal will most certainly be pinto, as well.
If your black and white mare is heterozygous pinto, there is only a fifty percent chance of the foal also being pinto.
If your mare is homozygous black, the foal will also be black, considering sorrel is recessive. However, if the sorrel is carrying the restrictor gene that causes bays (it is hidden in sorrels) your foal will be bay.
If your mare is heterozygous black and the sorrel does not carry the restrictor gene, the foal has a fifty percent chance of being black and a fifty chance at being sorrel. If the sorrel does carry the restrictor gene, the fifty percent black is replaced by fifty percent bay.
Another very rare possibility is that your mare may carry a dilute allele (this is masked in blacks), in that case you have a chance for a buckskin or palomino, with or without pinto markings.
Now, if your sorrel has a flaxen mane and tail, there is a possibility he is a dark palomino and has been mistaken for a flaxen sorrel (sometimes it is hard to tell). In that case you have a chance for a buckskin if you mare is homozygous black and the stallion carries the restrictor gene, a palomino if your mare is heterozygous black, and a cremello or perlino if your mare carries a dilute allele. These would all be with or without pinto markings.
Reply:go to www.equinecolor.com/color
Reply:Unless you have more information you really wont know. The mare or stallion could carry for something totally opposite of there colours. What colour baby you get has to do with family genetics not just the colour of the parents.
If I breed my black %26amp; white mare to a Sorrel stallion what is the color would the foal be?
Gray
Reply:it could be sorrel, or black and white... the colors probably wont mix to make like a grey.... but you may even get another color if your mare is a paint
Reply:Excellent Q! Here are the possibilities:
If your black and white mare is a homozygous pinto, the foal will most certainly be pinto, as well.
If your black and white mare is heterozygous pinto, there is only a fifty percent chance of the foal also being pinto.
If your mare is homozygous black, the foal will also be black, considering sorrel is recessive. However, if the sorrel is carrying the restrictor gene that causes bays (it is hidden in sorrels) your foal will be bay.
If your mare is heterozygous black and the sorrel does not carry the restrictor gene, the foal has a fifty percent chance of being black and a fifty chance at being sorrel. If the sorrel does carry the restrictor gene, the fifty percent black is replaced by fifty percent bay.
Another very rare possibility is that your mare may carry a dilute allele (this is masked in blacks), in that case you have a chance for a buckskin or palomino, with or without pinto markings.
Now, if your sorrel has a flaxen mane and tail, there is a possibility he is a dark palomino and has been mistaken for a flaxen sorrel (sometimes it is hard to tell). In that case you have a chance for a buckskin if you mare is homozygous black and the stallion carries the restrictor gene, a palomino if your mare is heterozygous black, and a cremello or perlino if your mare carries a dilute allele. These would all be with or without pinto markings.
Reply:go to www.equinecolor.com/color
Reply:Unless you have more information you really wont know. The mare or stallion could carry for something totally opposite of there colours. What colour baby you get has to do with family genetics not just the colour of the parents.
My 1 month old foal appears to be going from sorrel to black....?
her mother is a black mustang, and the father is a dapple gray arabian...she looks like she is shedding her scruffy baby coat and underneath is a smooth black coat...is this possible??
My 1 month old foal appears to be going from sorrel to black....?
Any thing is possible when it comes to color changes. All babies change colors within the first few years. Some change drasticly. Many colors of horses begin as a sorrel to bay color and change. If the father is a grey the foal will probably go grey too because Grey is a dominate gene. Check out the web site below.
Reply:Sure. It could be that she is going to grey out. Sometimes when a horse that is going to grey out looses their baby fur they will be dark in color and gradually lighten as they get older. Sometimes it takes a very long time for a horse to grey out, or it can happen very quickly. We have a 3 year old Trekhener filly that is still about 95% dark bay who is very slowly greying, and a 2 year old colt (half brother) who is already covered in dapples and seemingly turned grey overnight when he was about 6 or 8 months old.
Reply:It's very possible, most foals change color from what they are born as.
Reply:I had a foal born sorrel with a light mane and tail. I'm used to color changes (we've raised over 500 in 43 years). Look what color he is as an adult.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k288/R...
Reply:He may be turning gray.. or he may stay black.... Babies are so much fun to guess colors on. I think GRAY
Reply:yes, it is possible for your foal to change colors when they lose their baby coat, and it will happen often with blacks, turning from a smokey color to a full black. Some roans will even have different colors depending on the seasons.
Reply:since her mother is black it is possible that your foal will be black. and the father is a dapple gray well she could go gray. because the three yearlings at the place i ride at were born black and now they are becoming gray.
Reply:Yes My Arab Mare went from Bay to Grey, but it took almost three years
Reply:I had a colt born buckskin to a bay sire and sorrel mare. He shed out pitch black. Your foal could grey out or stay, it's too early to tell. A grey parent doesn't mean a guaranteed grey foal, just improves the odds and a grey foal is impossible without a grey parent. My sorrel mare was out of a grey mare, but will not have a grey foal unless she's bred to a grey sire. Even then, it's not a sure thing. But this black colt is sure good looking!!
Reply:yes they often change colors as they get older and shed their baby coat.
Reply:Blacks typically are born a 'mousey' color. I haven't ever seen a 'black' foal born that wasn't. Maybe others have??
Reply:yes! its possible! lots of horses as young foals change colors :]
Reply:Yes, baby's often change colors. They get rid of that baby coat and turn out a beautiful shiny coat that can be a different color.
Reply:It is possible. The baby coat can be a totally different color than what the shed off color can be. Case in point. One friend had a colt that was born a buckskin. And then shed off and was black as ink. So yes it can happen.
Reply:It sounds like she may be going to be a gray like her sire. Many gray horses are born dark then lighten as they grow up.
Reply:very possible.....
we had a walker colt born derby day...her father red, mother black...she was born black. she lost her baby coat and turned a reddish brown. she appears to be losing it again and going back to the black.
Reply:very possible, my dapple grey is now jet black
Reply:YES! Babys usually change colors. expesually if its father is a dapple grey dapples change collors a lot!!
Reply:there's nothing wrong!!!.
foal tend to shed off their coat when they're foals to their original colour.
i know a bred of horse (forgot the name) , htey live in the cold, snowy mountain sides. usually captured to pull wagons. similar to cylsdales, but a much hairer coat.
they are all born black. but then change to their spotted clothing.
it;s just like how all dalmations are born white.
and as they grown older, they grow their dots.
Reply:yep thats exactly what happened to my foal. she was pale brown and then dark brown patches started appearing around her knees, face and chest. this is a very good sign! :)
elaine
My 1 month old foal appears to be going from sorrel to black....?
Any thing is possible when it comes to color changes. All babies change colors within the first few years. Some change drasticly. Many colors of horses begin as a sorrel to bay color and change. If the father is a grey the foal will probably go grey too because Grey is a dominate gene. Check out the web site below.
Reply:Sure. It could be that she is going to grey out. Sometimes when a horse that is going to grey out looses their baby fur they will be dark in color and gradually lighten as they get older. Sometimes it takes a very long time for a horse to grey out, or it can happen very quickly. We have a 3 year old Trekhener filly that is still about 95% dark bay who is very slowly greying, and a 2 year old colt (half brother) who is already covered in dapples and seemingly turned grey overnight when he was about 6 or 8 months old.
Reply:It's very possible, most foals change color from what they are born as.
Reply:I had a foal born sorrel with a light mane and tail. I'm used to color changes (we've raised over 500 in 43 years). Look what color he is as an adult.
http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k288/R...
Reply:He may be turning gray.. or he may stay black.... Babies are so much fun to guess colors on. I think GRAY
Reply:yes, it is possible for your foal to change colors when they lose their baby coat, and it will happen often with blacks, turning from a smokey color to a full black. Some roans will even have different colors depending on the seasons.
Reply:since her mother is black it is possible that your foal will be black. and the father is a dapple gray well she could go gray. because the three yearlings at the place i ride at were born black and now they are becoming gray.
Reply:Yes My Arab Mare went from Bay to Grey, but it took almost three years
Reply:I had a colt born buckskin to a bay sire and sorrel mare. He shed out pitch black. Your foal could grey out or stay, it's too early to tell. A grey parent doesn't mean a guaranteed grey foal, just improves the odds and a grey foal is impossible without a grey parent. My sorrel mare was out of a grey mare, but will not have a grey foal unless she's bred to a grey sire. Even then, it's not a sure thing. But this black colt is sure good looking!!
Reply:yes they often change colors as they get older and shed their baby coat.
Reply:Blacks typically are born a 'mousey' color. I haven't ever seen a 'black' foal born that wasn't. Maybe others have??
Reply:yes! its possible! lots of horses as young foals change colors :]
Reply:Yes, baby's often change colors. They get rid of that baby coat and turn out a beautiful shiny coat that can be a different color.
Reply:It is possible. The baby coat can be a totally different color than what the shed off color can be. Case in point. One friend had a colt that was born a buckskin. And then shed off and was black as ink. So yes it can happen.
Reply:It sounds like she may be going to be a gray like her sire. Many gray horses are born dark then lighten as they grow up.
Reply:very possible.....
we had a walker colt born derby day...her father red, mother black...she was born black. she lost her baby coat and turned a reddish brown. she appears to be losing it again and going back to the black.
Reply:very possible, my dapple grey is now jet black
Reply:YES! Babys usually change colors. expesually if its father is a dapple grey dapples change collors a lot!!
Reply:there's nothing wrong!!!.
foal tend to shed off their coat when they're foals to their original colour.
i know a bred of horse (forgot the name) , htey live in the cold, snowy mountain sides. usually captured to pull wagons. similar to cylsdales, but a much hairer coat.
they are all born black. but then change to their spotted clothing.
it;s just like how all dalmations are born white.
and as they grown older, they grow their dots.
Reply:yep thats exactly what happened to my foal. she was pale brown and then dark brown patches started appearing around her knees, face and chest. this is a very good sign! :)
elaine
Can i freeze Jamaica Sorrel (Rosellas) fruit?
wish to save fruit, until I have sufficent to make jam.
Can i freeze Jamaica Sorrel (Rosellas) fruit?
you certainly can , just prepare them as if you were going to use them straight away and pop them into a freezer safe container/bag and they can be added to as you ripen more.yum!rosella jam . :-)
Can i freeze Jamaica Sorrel (Rosellas) fruit?
you certainly can , just prepare them as if you were going to use them straight away and pop them into a freezer safe container/bag and they can be added to as you ripen more.yum!rosella jam . :-)
What is sorrel?
I think it is a plant. I steep it with ginger to drink. Jamaican drink you have on the xmas holidays.
What is sorrel?
Yes sorrel is an herb. It is also known as spinach dock %26amp; shav, and used as a vegetable. The edible leaves have a flavor that is very similar to that of kiwifruit , or sour wild strawberries. It is a deep red coloured annual used in making tarts and jellies The beverage is dark red and has a sweet spiced flavor.
In the Jewish culture it is often served as a soup during Passover.
SCHAV SOUP
1 lb Schav, (sorrel leaves)
2 tbl Butter, or corn oil
1 med Onion, finely minced
6 cup -Water
1 tsp Kosher salt
2 tbl Sugar
1 x Lemon, for juice
2 x Egg yolks, beaten
Sour cream
Wash the sorrel thoroughly in several changes of cold water. Remove and discard the stems. Chop the leaves into thin ribbons.
Heat the butter or oil in a 3 quart saucepan and saut the sorrel and onions. Cook stirring, for 10 minutes. Add water and salt. Let the soup simmer for 25 to 30 minutes.
Remove from heat and stir in sugar. Add the lemon juice 1 tb. at a time, tasting constantly to achieve the degree of tartness that pleases you. Beat a tabls. or two of the soup into the egg yolks, then stir egg yolks into the soup. Reheat the soup but do not let it boil after adding the egg yolks.
Serve hot accompanied by sour cream ( a dollop or two gets added to each bowl ) or cool the soup and chill in refrigerator for several hours or overnight. Serve cold with sour cream.
Reply:its a herb/wild plant
Reply:It is the blossom of the Hybiscus plant, in Jamaica at Xmas they steep it in a hot water and sugar syrup, strain out the blossoms, add lime juce and if for adults a touch of rum.
I worked in Jamaican back in the 1980's at a resort in Montego bay, they grow wild all over the island, and are use at other itmes of the year, but it is more tradtional at Xams to amke this type of punch.
1 pound of flowers will make a gallon of the brew, make it with 1 1/2 gallons of water, 2 cups of sugar, the juice of 2 limes and for the rum part, it is your choice, as depending on the people consuming it, they can determine that for themselves.
What is sorrel?
Yes sorrel is an herb. It is also known as spinach dock %26amp; shav, and used as a vegetable. The edible leaves have a flavor that is very similar to that of kiwifruit , or sour wild strawberries. It is a deep red coloured annual used in making tarts and jellies The beverage is dark red and has a sweet spiced flavor.
In the Jewish culture it is often served as a soup during Passover.
SCHAV SOUP
1 lb Schav, (sorrel leaves)
2 tbl Butter, or corn oil
1 med Onion, finely minced
6 cup -Water
1 tsp Kosher salt
2 tbl Sugar
1 x Lemon, for juice
2 x Egg yolks, beaten
Sour cream
Wash the sorrel thoroughly in several changes of cold water. Remove and discard the stems. Chop the leaves into thin ribbons.
Heat the butter or oil in a 3 quart saucepan and saut the sorrel and onions. Cook stirring, for 10 minutes. Add water and salt. Let the soup simmer for 25 to 30 minutes.
Remove from heat and stir in sugar. Add the lemon juice 1 tb. at a time, tasting constantly to achieve the degree of tartness that pleases you. Beat a tabls. or two of the soup into the egg yolks, then stir egg yolks into the soup. Reheat the soup but do not let it boil after adding the egg yolks.
Serve hot accompanied by sour cream ( a dollop or two gets added to each bowl ) or cool the soup and chill in refrigerator for several hours or overnight. Serve cold with sour cream.
Reply:its a herb/wild plant
Reply:It is the blossom of the Hybiscus plant, in Jamaica at Xmas they steep it in a hot water and sugar syrup, strain out the blossoms, add lime juce and if for adults a touch of rum.
I worked in Jamaican back in the 1980's at a resort in Montego bay, they grow wild all over the island, and are use at other itmes of the year, but it is more tradtional at Xams to amke this type of punch.
1 pound of flowers will make a gallon of the brew, make it with 1 1/2 gallons of water, 2 cups of sugar, the juice of 2 limes and for the rum part, it is your choice, as depending on the people consuming it, they can determine that for themselves.
Which English supermarkets sell sorrel?
I am looking for sorrel leaves which looks similar to spinach but has sour taste. It is good for cooking soups with hard boiled eggs and in salads. I have no idea where to look for it. May be it is called different that is why I cannot find it. Thank you.
This is how it looks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel
Which English supermarkets sell sorrel?
TESCO
Reply:I have seen this, but i cant remember where.
Reply:I love sorrel too, to be honest you can't really find it in any supermarket, trust me I have looked for it. The best thing I can suggest to you is to go to a Farmer's market, if there is one near you, I always tend to find some there.
Reply:best to try local market. dont know where you live but covent garden veg market could do the job......good luck.
This is how it looks:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorrel
Which English supermarkets sell sorrel?
TESCO
Reply:I have seen this, but i cant remember where.
Reply:I love sorrel too, to be honest you can't really find it in any supermarket, trust me I have looked for it. The best thing I can suggest to you is to go to a Farmer's market, if there is one near you, I always tend to find some there.
Reply:best to try local market. dont know where you live but covent garden veg market could do the job......good luck.
Can guinea pigs eat a type of clover called "sheep sorrel" my dad gave me some for them and i wanna make sure?
i wanna make sure it isn't poisenous.
Can guinea pigs eat a type of clover called "sheep sorrel" my dad gave me some for them and i wanna make sure?
I'd give it to them as a treat only. Timothy hay is what they need a constant supply of to help with their digestion. Even alfalfa hay isn't recommended as a daily diet for piggies unless they're very young or pregnant and need the extra nutrients. I'm not familiar with "sheep sorrel," and especially if it's a clover it's probably harmless, but you shouldn't replace their regular hay with it (and hopefully you're giving them timothy!) =) Good luck!
Reply:I've had a number of guinea pigs and I've found that they generally are very good about not eating what's not good for them. I would think a type of clover would be a nice treat, though.
Reply:SHEEP SORREL (Rumex acetosella)
This plant is known by several common names— Field Sorrel, Sorrel, Red Weed, Sour Dock, Sour Grass, Dog-eared Sorrel—proper identification vital despite common name
FAMILY: Polygaonceae (Greek—polys (many) gony (knee—referring to the jointed stems)
PARTS COMMONLY USED: Primarily above ground portions
COLLECTION: Ideally at each season; leaves in Spring, Summer and Fall, roots in Fall and Winter in milder climates, seeds when ripe
DESCRIPTION %26amp; HABITAT: acetosella means vinegar salts. It is the smaller of the sorrel plants and should not be confused with the French or Garden Sorrel (Rumex acetosa). (It is considered less active in it’s properties than either of those varieties.) It is found in pastures and dry places. The plant is not native to the U.S., but was brought from Europe with the early settlers. Toward the end of summer, the plant becomes tinged with a red hue. A slender plant, I have seen it grow from 3 or 4 inches or much taller—depending on it’s environment. The leaves are approximately 1/2—3/4 inches in length, have long petioles, variable in width, narrow-lanceolate (shaped like an arrowhead). The yellow-orange (male) or red-orange (female) flowers are on long stalks, and have very small triangular seed pods. Easily grown from seed, I encourage each of you to grow some for your own use—even in a small pot on a windowsill. Perennial.
HISTORY %26amp; USES: Many sources give reference to the Sorrels but not specifically the Rumex acetosella. They seem to interchange them—Garden Sorrel, Wood Sorrel, French Sorrel, Mountain Sorrel. This makes it a rather difficult, and confusing, undertaking to sort out which properties are specific to this plant. Several author’s works I consulted would refer to Garden Sorrel in one part and then switch midstream to Sheep Sorrel—implying they were one in the same. This can be very misleading to someone! Although the “true” sorrels have many commonalities, it is also important to recognize that proper utilization and identification of a plant requires accurate information!
Sheep sorrel taken as a cool drink may reduce a fever. As a tea it is good for diarrhea, a gargle for sore throats. It has been used for internal and external bleeding (due to its astringent properties), but I would seek medical attention first! Instead of trying to sort out the mish-mash of inaccurate information, I decided to look at the chemicals found in this plant, it’s actions, and go from there. Seemed safer to me! Although many of the actions seem contradictory, keep in mind that it is the degree that the chemical is present in the plant which will determine it’s overall actions expected.
Sheep Sorrel is high in antioxidants. These protect the cells from free radical damage caused by pollutants and the normal activity of cell metabolism or destruction. It appears to be antiseptic, antibacterial, antiviral and antiparasitic. (Anti means against.) It also seems to be high in anti-tumor properties. A word of caution here for the trusting—most of the studies were done on mice. Anecdotal evidence seems to support that this may be anti-tumor for humans though! The anti-inflammatory properties would suggest why it has been found helpful for those with arthritis. The many vitamins and minerals offer a plausible reason why it also has been found helpful for those with fatigue, lack of energy, muscle aches. It’s many constituents related to functions of the blood, or circulatory system, indicate it may be helpful for those who are suffering imbalances in that regard. Indications are there for constituents which would relax the nervous system, muscles, and decrease pain. This herb truly seems to be abundant in properties which could possibly help in a variety of health concerns. Along with that, unproven theories are that it possesses some antiangiogenesis properties. That long medical term loosely translated means that the blood supply created by the tumor to continue it’s existence and survival is cut off. This is one of the avenues allopathic medicine is studying in regard to cancer treatment.
Anthracenosides are present in Sheep Sorrel. This chemical serves as a gentle laxative. It should not be consumed by pregnant women, or persons with varicose veins, hemorrhoids, or blood disorders that could be exacerbated by increased blood flow to the abdominal cavity.
ORGANS/SYSTEMS AFFECTED— blood, heart, immune system
SOLVENTS—water, alcohol
LOOK ALIKE—If you are only looking at the leaves of a plant trying to identify it, then look again! Sheep sorrel sometimes will be found next to Common Nightshade. Both have arrow-shaped leaves. One is an upright plant (the sorrel) and the other is a vine (Nightshade) with a very different display of flowers and fruit.
The Sheep Sorrel plant is much smaller than the French or Garden Sorrels.
THOUGHTS: It is high in Vitamin C, therefore considered “anti-scorbutic”, or anti-scurvy. Also high in beta-carotene, potassium and phosphorus. It’s oxalic acid content has been a source of discussion with many of our clients. This chemical can interfere with calcium metabolism when consumed in very large quantities for prolonged periods. Those with kidney disease should avoid this herb for that reason. In my readings, I found the following in relation to oxalic acid: It may interfere with iron absorption and inhibit calcium absorption. A few sources suggested to take Vitamin B6 (pyroxidine) and magnesium. Sheep sorrel and Slippery Elm are reported to contain B6 and magnesium. Could it be enough to balance out the oxalic acid content?
Apparently, the soil which Rene Caisse collected her Sheep sorrel from was found high in selenium. Since the U.S. soil (where our herbs are grown) is not, this may be something you wish to consider—supplementing with 200 mcg per day. I read reports where most people with cancer are deficient in this nutrient.
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Can guinea pigs eat a type of clover called "sheep sorrel" my dad gave me some for them and i wanna make sure?
I'd give it to them as a treat only. Timothy hay is what they need a constant supply of to help with their digestion. Even alfalfa hay isn't recommended as a daily diet for piggies unless they're very young or pregnant and need the extra nutrients. I'm not familiar with "sheep sorrel," and especially if it's a clover it's probably harmless, but you shouldn't replace their regular hay with it (and hopefully you're giving them timothy!) =) Good luck!
Reply:I've had a number of guinea pigs and I've found that they generally are very good about not eating what's not good for them. I would think a type of clover would be a nice treat, though.
Reply:SHEEP SORREL (Rumex acetosella)
This plant is known by several common names— Field Sorrel, Sorrel, Red Weed, Sour Dock, Sour Grass, Dog-eared Sorrel—proper identification vital despite common name
FAMILY: Polygaonceae (Greek—polys (many) gony (knee—referring to the jointed stems)
PARTS COMMONLY USED: Primarily above ground portions
COLLECTION: Ideally at each season; leaves in Spring, Summer and Fall, roots in Fall and Winter in milder climates, seeds when ripe
DESCRIPTION %26amp; HABITAT: acetosella means vinegar salts. It is the smaller of the sorrel plants and should not be confused with the French or Garden Sorrel (Rumex acetosa). (It is considered less active in it’s properties than either of those varieties.) It is found in pastures and dry places. The plant is not native to the U.S., but was brought from Europe with the early settlers. Toward the end of summer, the plant becomes tinged with a red hue. A slender plant, I have seen it grow from 3 or 4 inches or much taller—depending on it’s environment. The leaves are approximately 1/2—3/4 inches in length, have long petioles, variable in width, narrow-lanceolate (shaped like an arrowhead). The yellow-orange (male) or red-orange (female) flowers are on long stalks, and have very small triangular seed pods. Easily grown from seed, I encourage each of you to grow some for your own use—even in a small pot on a windowsill. Perennial.
HISTORY %26amp; USES: Many sources give reference to the Sorrels but not specifically the Rumex acetosella. They seem to interchange them—Garden Sorrel, Wood Sorrel, French Sorrel, Mountain Sorrel. This makes it a rather difficult, and confusing, undertaking to sort out which properties are specific to this plant. Several author’s works I consulted would refer to Garden Sorrel in one part and then switch midstream to Sheep Sorrel—implying they were one in the same. This can be very misleading to someone! Although the “true” sorrels have many commonalities, it is also important to recognize that proper utilization and identification of a plant requires accurate information!
Sheep sorrel taken as a cool drink may reduce a fever. As a tea it is good for diarrhea, a gargle for sore throats. It has been used for internal and external bleeding (due to its astringent properties), but I would seek medical attention first! Instead of trying to sort out the mish-mash of inaccurate information, I decided to look at the chemicals found in this plant, it’s actions, and go from there. Seemed safer to me! Although many of the actions seem contradictory, keep in mind that it is the degree that the chemical is present in the plant which will determine it’s overall actions expected.
Sheep Sorrel is high in antioxidants. These protect the cells from free radical damage caused by pollutants and the normal activity of cell metabolism or destruction. It appears to be antiseptic, antibacterial, antiviral and antiparasitic. (Anti means against.) It also seems to be high in anti-tumor properties. A word of caution here for the trusting—most of the studies were done on mice. Anecdotal evidence seems to support that this may be anti-tumor for humans though! The anti-inflammatory properties would suggest why it has been found helpful for those with arthritis. The many vitamins and minerals offer a plausible reason why it also has been found helpful for those with fatigue, lack of energy, muscle aches. It’s many constituents related to functions of the blood, or circulatory system, indicate it may be helpful for those who are suffering imbalances in that regard. Indications are there for constituents which would relax the nervous system, muscles, and decrease pain. This herb truly seems to be abundant in properties which could possibly help in a variety of health concerns. Along with that, unproven theories are that it possesses some antiangiogenesis properties. That long medical term loosely translated means that the blood supply created by the tumor to continue it’s existence and survival is cut off. This is one of the avenues allopathic medicine is studying in regard to cancer treatment.
Anthracenosides are present in Sheep Sorrel. This chemical serves as a gentle laxative. It should not be consumed by pregnant women, or persons with varicose veins, hemorrhoids, or blood disorders that could be exacerbated by increased blood flow to the abdominal cavity.
ORGANS/SYSTEMS AFFECTED— blood, heart, immune system
SOLVENTS—water, alcohol
LOOK ALIKE—If you are only looking at the leaves of a plant trying to identify it, then look again! Sheep sorrel sometimes will be found next to Common Nightshade. Both have arrow-shaped leaves. One is an upright plant (the sorrel) and the other is a vine (Nightshade) with a very different display of flowers and fruit.
The Sheep Sorrel plant is much smaller than the French or Garden Sorrels.
THOUGHTS: It is high in Vitamin C, therefore considered “anti-scorbutic”, or anti-scurvy. Also high in beta-carotene, potassium and phosphorus. It’s oxalic acid content has been a source of discussion with many of our clients. This chemical can interfere with calcium metabolism when consumed in very large quantities for prolonged periods. Those with kidney disease should avoid this herb for that reason. In my readings, I found the following in relation to oxalic acid: It may interfere with iron absorption and inhibit calcium absorption. A few sources suggested to take Vitamin B6 (pyroxidine) and magnesium. Sheep sorrel and Slippery Elm are reported to contain B6 and magnesium. Could it be enough to balance out the oxalic acid content?
Apparently, the soil which Rene Caisse collected her Sheep sorrel from was found high in selenium. Since the U.S. soil (where our herbs are grown) is not, this may be something you wish to consider—supplementing with 200 mcg per day. I read reports where most people with cancer are deficient in this nutrient.
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How can sorrel and tomatoes be preserved?
Can them.... or buy a dehydrator.
How can sorrel and tomatoes be preserved?
you can can, sun-dry or freeze tomatoes. idk about sorrel.
Reply:are sorrel still around?
Reply:what is sorrel?? never heard of it. worked in a grocery store for many years.
How can sorrel and tomatoes be preserved?
you can can, sun-dry or freeze tomatoes. idk about sorrel.
Reply:are sorrel still around?
Reply:what is sorrel?? never heard of it. worked in a grocery store for many years.
Which insect is best known for pollinating the wood sorrel plant?
Bees are bestknown, as well bumblebees and flies but also Cleistogomy (self-pollinating without flowers ever opening).
Which insect is best known for pollinating the wood sorrel plant?
"Wood sorrel (Oxalis acetosella) is an example of a plant that has two kinds of flower.
In spring, it produces showy flowers that are attractive to insects (mainly nectar and pollen foraging bees).
In the late summer, Wood sorrel produces small flowers, obscured by the leaves. These flowers never open and are automatically self pollinated. They are described as ‘cleistogamous’ flowers."
modified from a page in the Plant Science Image Database http://plantscienceimages.org.uk/pages/i...
John H
Which insect is best known for pollinating the wood sorrel plant?
"Wood sorrel (Oxalis acetosella) is an example of a plant that has two kinds of flower.
In spring, it produces showy flowers that are attractive to insects (mainly nectar and pollen foraging bees).
In the late summer, Wood sorrel produces small flowers, obscured by the leaves. These flowers never open and are automatically self pollinated. They are described as ‘cleistogamous’ flowers."
modified from a page in the Plant Science Image Database http://plantscienceimages.org.uk/pages/i...
John H
Anyone heard of the Sorrel-Weed House in Savannah?
Has anyone have any additional information on the Sorrel-Weed House in Savannah, Georgia? I have a difficult time finding any.
Anyone heard of the Sorrel-Weed House in Savannah?
I have been on a tour of the home. Very beautiful architecture. According to my guide the home is supposed to be haunted either by the owner's wife who committed suicide there or by a slave who died there. Very interesting. Here are some links about the house.
http://sorrelweedhouse.com/_wsn/page3.ht...
http://www.graveaddiction.com/sorrweed.h...
If you are up for it take a ghost tour. (Not for the faint of heart.) I got chills and the heebee gee bees!
http://www.sixthsensesavannah.com/home.h...
I hope this helps!
Anyone heard of the Sorrel-Weed House in Savannah?
I have been on a tour of the home. Very beautiful architecture. According to my guide the home is supposed to be haunted either by the owner's wife who committed suicide there or by a slave who died there. Very interesting. Here are some links about the house.
http://sorrelweedhouse.com/_wsn/page3.ht...
http://www.graveaddiction.com/sorrweed.h...
If you are up for it take a ghost tour. (Not for the faint of heart.) I got chills and the heebee gee bees!
http://www.sixthsensesavannah.com/home.h...
I hope this helps!
How can i get rid of sarcoids on my horse(16 yr old sorrel mare) without surgery?
This is what some one said in a chat room:
You MUST get your hands on the May 2001 issue of Equus Magazine. It has an excellent article about sarcoids and the latest treatments.
I personaly have never heard of it. :(
But good luck!!
How can i get rid of sarcoids on my horse(16 yr old sorrel mare) without surgery?
Answer #1 takes you to a good chat. Follow up with all the searches you can, your mare deserves your best efforts!
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You MUST get your hands on the May 2001 issue of Equus Magazine. It has an excellent article about sarcoids and the latest treatments.
I personaly have never heard of it. :(
But good luck!!
How can i get rid of sarcoids on my horse(16 yr old sorrel mare) without surgery?
Answer #1 takes you to a good chat. Follow up with all the searches you can, your mare deserves your best efforts!
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Does anyone know where I can buy sorrel leaves in Washington, DC area?
Any large natural/health food retailer should have it.
Save gas by calling before you go!
Does anyone know where I can buy sorrel leaves in Washington, DC area?
Check the web.........one site I order from is San Francisco Herb Company. Alot of your craft magazines have listings of herb companies in the back, so does Sunset magazine.
Save gas by calling before you go!
Does anyone know where I can buy sorrel leaves in Washington, DC area?
Check the web.........one site I order from is San Francisco Herb Company. Alot of your craft magazines have listings of herb companies in the back, so does Sunset magazine.
Threes a sorrel i mare wanna get. shes free would it be mean to have her stay at a stable?
i would pay too keep her there sense we live in the city but i would still vist her and coem and feed her but she getting old shes an old aqha horse but the fact that a horse is free!!!!!!!! and i love horses . and ill never eb able to egt oen other wise so would it be fair to do that ?
Threes a sorrel i mare wanna get. shes free would it be mean to have her stay at a stable?
There's absolutely nothing wrong with boarding a horse at a good stable that keeps good maintenance and boarding practices. But there are other concerns.
It used to be that a "free" horse was "free" for a reason...but with the market as it is, it is now almost just as likely that a person has given up on selling, can't afford to feed, and is looking for decent placements.
Since she is aged, there's a good chance that she's a good old girl that has served her purpose for her present owner, and if that's the case, she may be a great candidate for a beginner.
Still, be very careful. When you decide on a stable, ask around for a good vet, and get a "pre purchase" exam, even though you're not "purchasing." And use YOUR vet, not the previous owner's. You should also ask to see the vet records. It's one thing to take on an unsound special needs horse when you have the ground and can afford to feed it and draw some satisfaction just from watching it convert $$ to fertilizer...
It's another matter entirely to take the responsibility of a horse with the intent of enjoying some riding, only to find out the horse is not able to be ridden anymore due to health/soundness issues.
The only thing I would ask of anyone taking on an aged horse...you know going into this that the horse is in their twilight years and their time of service is drawing to a close. What kind of plan do you have to make sure this faithful servant doesn't wind up with a horrible end?
Reply:A free horse is usually a horse you want to stay away from, or at least ask questions about with the current owner.
For example: 'What is wrong with the horse that she would be given away or free? What is her age? Can you still ride her? ect.'
She might be diseased, or have a condition that is costly to manage and keep up with. Or, since you mentioned that she's old, she might be so old that she's on her last leg, and it would be cruel to keep her going and not euthanize her.
Also, even if she's not rideable, I'm sure she'll need to be hand walked, or put in a pasture either by herself or with older, friendly horses.
Are you up for the responsibility for the care of a horse? A horse is not an animal that you can just waltz by every now and then and feed, it is an animal that requires daily care, work, and upkeep to remain happy and healthy.
Reply:There's nothing wrong with boarding a horse at a stable instead of keeping on your property. Many people do this and it's often a great situation to make friends and get advice from other horse people. Plus many horses don't like to be pastured alone, so she'll be where she'll have plenty of friends, too.
Make sure you know exactly how much it's going to cost to keep her... and remember that with an older horse, she'll be more likely to have health problems and that will mean more expensive vet bills and care. There's no such thing as a truly free horse. You'll need to have the farrier trim her hooves regularly, the vet come out a couple times a year, worm her regularly, and don't forget you'll also need a saddle/bridle and other miscellaneous tack/horse care items.
Most boarding stables will feed the horse for you, so if the stable you choose takes care of that you won't have to worry about going out there twice a day. As long as you go visit her regularly and keep up with her care she'll be fine.
Threes a sorrel i mare wanna get. shes free would it be mean to have her stay at a stable?
There's absolutely nothing wrong with boarding a horse at a good stable that keeps good maintenance and boarding practices. But there are other concerns.
It used to be that a "free" horse was "free" for a reason...but with the market as it is, it is now almost just as likely that a person has given up on selling, can't afford to feed, and is looking for decent placements.
Since she is aged, there's a good chance that she's a good old girl that has served her purpose for her present owner, and if that's the case, she may be a great candidate for a beginner.
Still, be very careful. When you decide on a stable, ask around for a good vet, and get a "pre purchase" exam, even though you're not "purchasing." And use YOUR vet, not the previous owner's. You should also ask to see the vet records. It's one thing to take on an unsound special needs horse when you have the ground and can afford to feed it and draw some satisfaction just from watching it convert $$ to fertilizer...
It's another matter entirely to take the responsibility of a horse with the intent of enjoying some riding, only to find out the horse is not able to be ridden anymore due to health/soundness issues.
The only thing I would ask of anyone taking on an aged horse...you know going into this that the horse is in their twilight years and their time of service is drawing to a close. What kind of plan do you have to make sure this faithful servant doesn't wind up with a horrible end?
Reply:A free horse is usually a horse you want to stay away from, or at least ask questions about with the current owner.
For example: 'What is wrong with the horse that she would be given away or free? What is her age? Can you still ride her? ect.'
She might be diseased, or have a condition that is costly to manage and keep up with. Or, since you mentioned that she's old, she might be so old that she's on her last leg, and it would be cruel to keep her going and not euthanize her.
Also, even if she's not rideable, I'm sure she'll need to be hand walked, or put in a pasture either by herself or with older, friendly horses.
Are you up for the responsibility for the care of a horse? A horse is not an animal that you can just waltz by every now and then and feed, it is an animal that requires daily care, work, and upkeep to remain happy and healthy.
Reply:There's nothing wrong with boarding a horse at a stable instead of keeping on your property. Many people do this and it's often a great situation to make friends and get advice from other horse people. Plus many horses don't like to be pastured alone, so she'll be where she'll have plenty of friends, too.
Make sure you know exactly how much it's going to cost to keep her... and remember that with an older horse, she'll be more likely to have health problems and that will mean more expensive vet bills and care. There's no such thing as a truly free horse. You'll need to have the farrier trim her hooves regularly, the vet come out a couple times a year, worm her regularly, and don't forget you'll also need a saddle/bridle and other miscellaneous tack/horse care items.
Most boarding stables will feed the horse for you, so if the stable you choose takes care of that you won't have to worry about going out there twice a day. As long as you go visit her regularly and keep up with her care she'll be fine.
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