Saturday, November 14, 2009

Horse breed info help?

im a new comer to horse registry and im confused. Paint vs Pinto. whats the difference? Im looking at buying a horse that is registered in the pinto horse association of America but he is sorrel and has very little white (papers say sorrel/solid). so is pinto the color or the breed and what is paint. Also on the papers it says his "type" is stock. whats that.

Horse breed info help?
To call a horse a paint, it's ancestry must be paint to paint, paint to QH, or paint to TB breeding, APHA.





Before the days of pinto, paint registries, pinto referred to the Tobiano marked horse, while paint referred to the Overo type of marking. Just to confuse it more, throw in Piebald and Skewbald.





A skewbald horse has a coat made up of


chestnut (or any color besides black) and white patches.





"A piebald is a horse, that has a spotting pattern of large white and black patches."





"In the British Isles piebald (black and white) and skewbald (brown and white) are together known as coloured.





In North America, the term for all large spotted colouring is pinto, with the specialized term "paint" referring specifically to a breed of horse with American Quarter Horse or Thoroughbred bloodlines in addition to being spotted, whereas pinto refers to a spotted horse of any breed.'
Reply:I never used to know the difference.





Paint is a breed of horse like Apaloosa, Arabian, etc.


Pinto is just a color of some breeds like bay, black, etc.





Stock just means he's buff and kind of has a Quarter Horse build to him.





Hope I helped! XD
Reply:The pinto registry or the PtHA takes many types of horses in, either based on breeding or on color. Solid means that the horse had some ancestors who were spotted, but the baby turned out solid, with not enough white to qualify for normal registry.


The "stock" type of PtHA registry means that the horse is Quarter horse type.


The APHA is just another registry, but really mostly only take horses of QH and Thoroughbred breeding. The difference is just how inclusive and strict the registries are. The PtHA will take horses that are spotted of unknown breeding, while the APHA is more exclusive and will not.


That is why "Paints" have a more distinctive look, and "pintos" describe a larger variety of horses.





For more info, you could go to the APHA.com, or PtHA.org....


Hope I helped... I know it is complicated :-)
Reply:I think Paint is a breed as well as a color, but Pinto is just a color.


Like Pinto skewbald (brown and white) or piebald (black and white).
Reply:AMERICAN PAINT HORSES


American Paint Horses have strict bloodline requirements and a distinctive stock-horse body type. To be eligible for registry, a Paint's sire and dam must be registered with the American Paint Horse Association, the American Quarter Horse Association, or the Jockey Club (Thoroughbreds). At least one parent must be a registered American Paint Horse. To be eligible for the Regular Registry, the horse must also exhibit a minimum amount of white hair over unpigmented (pink) skin.











PINTO


The breed that offers something for everyone is the Pinto Horse Association . Formed in 1956.


The Size


* Miniature – Any equine measuring 34 inches or less


* Miniature B – Any equine measuring over 34 inches and up to 38 inches


* Pony – Any equine measuring over 38 inches and up to 56 inches


* Horse – Any equine measuring more than 56 inches (14 hands)


The Type


* Hunter – Displays the carriage and conformation associated with predominantly Thoroughbred horse or Connemara or Welsh pony breeding.


* Pleasure – Displays the carriage and conformation associated with predominantly Arabian or Morgan horse or Welsh or Shetland pony breeding.


* Saddle – Gaited horse or pony displaying the carriage, animation and conformation of Saddlebred, Hackney or Tennessee Walking Horse or modern style Shetland pony breeding.


* Stock – Displays the carriage and conformation associated with the Quarter Horse or Shetland pony breeding.





The Pattern


* Tobiano – Coat appears to be white with large flowing spots of color, often overlapping. Spots of color typically originate from the head, chest, flank and buttock, often including the tail.


* Overo – Coat appears to be colored horse with white markings. Spots of white appear to be jagged and usually originate on the animal's side or belly, spreading toward the neck, tail, legs and back. White almost never crosses the back.


* Breeding Stock – Coat is solid or lacks sufficient white to be registered in regular registry, but can be classified as a Breeding Stock with the PtHA. Breeding Stock Pintos are _not allowed_ to participate in PtHA events unless specified by the event rules.
Reply:Pinto is a color pattern, the registry accepts horses of any breed that has the broken coat pattern of black and white splotches or brown and white and the dilutes of both those colors and white, there is the "overo pattern" which is the dark on the outside with white incased in the dark markings or there is the "tobiano" pattern which is white on the outside parimeters with the dark on the inside. A registered Paint horse is a registered Quarter horse that has the Pinto coat pattern, so one is pinto with any heritage the other is pinto but must be Quarter horse bloodlines registered. Hope that helps. Oh- "type" means does your Pinto resemble, Quarter, Arab, Thorobred, what breed does it most closely resemble.
Reply:Although the two registries have primarily multicolored horses as members, the APHA--American Paint Horse Association is only open to horses with registered APHA (Paint), Quarter Horse, or Thoroughbred ancestry. A horse may be registered APHA and not have any color--referred to as "breeding stock." Pinto is a color designation, which can be found in numerous breeds, from miniatures to Spotted Draft or Gypsy horses. If your horse is registered in the Pinto Horse Association (PtHA) but has no coat pattern (i.e, is "solid" in color), it can also be called "breeding stock," but may not eligible to compete in PtHA shows. "Stock" type refers to his having more of a western Quarter Horse build than, say, a leaner Thoroughbred or Arabian frame.
Reply:Paint is a breed and colour same as Pinto - The coulor Paint is Brown and White patches and Pinto is Brown and white pathches and Black and white patches but really the breed doesnt mean anything really.


And sock means the horse is very musculy and strong and ect


Hope I Help You!


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