Saturday, November 14, 2009

Registration, rescue horses.?

So I went to the equine rescue today and picked up two little wild things that were rescued from the killpen. One is a little filly who appears to be a dun. (its hard to tell because her coat is very clumpy and dull since she is so malnourished) The other is a sorrel colt who is very leggy and looks like a TB. Both have very nice coloring and conformation. Is there anyway I could find out if they had papers before they were taken to slaughter? Will any association look up markings? They seem like they were at one time quality horses and I would like to find out about there past. The rescue cant tell me anything.


Thanks,


Karen

Registration, rescue horses.?
Since you are saying filly and colt, I am guessing that they are young. In that case, the chances of them being registered by someone who did not have the money to care for them and took them to a sale, are very slim.





If the filly does in deed turn out to be a dun, you can register her as a color breed when she gets a little older. I would probably guess that she might be in actuality a grey (they usually have this coloration when they are younger but then turn grey). You can tell this if she has white or grey hairs around or a lighter colored ring around her eyes.





No associations will look up markings even on older horses. You have to have an owners name or the horse's registered name. If you dont have that, there is absolutely no way to look it up. If they were older they might be tatooed as well, and that would be an easier way to look it up.





There are other registries that you can register them that are either color or discipline based. The United States Equestrian Federation also has a registration for the horse (not a like a breed registry but for competitions) that you can do yearly or for the life time of the horse.





Hope that helps and congratulations on your new babies!
Reply:Hi there. Unfortuantely, the auction company does not care about these things, only about the weight for the killers. However you could look for a body brand when the excess hair starts falling off or......Thoroughbreds and quarter horses are registered by number on the underside of the upper lip. Arabians and mustangs are freeze branded under their manes, probably need to clip off the hair to see, if their coats are long or scruffy.


All registration associations have to have at least the name of the sire, dam, and breeder to even start looking for them. (And the sire and dam would have to have been registered).


The dun is most likely quarter or mustang bred and the sorrel, well, you'll just have to wait and see.


I would be more concerned about getting a health check by a vet, putting them on a good worming program, vaccinations, and on a good nutrition program as well. Bless you for rescuing them, and I hope they have long and healthy lives with you. :^)


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Reply:it is very hard to find out i have a rescued PMU 3 y/o and we dont have any papers on him
Reply:are there any marks on the horses lips...the underneath?


(letters, #'s)
Reply:check inside the bottom lip.





yes there is a way to trace the TB - check with some horse rescues I don't remember what it is
Reply:you can try looking for brands, tattoos or microchips. if you do not find any of these you can try to go to the last auction house that sold them to see if they still have the papers from the lot number (you must have the hip tags to do this) sometimes you'll luck out and the are papers lying about somewhere but more often than not you'll never know if they we or were not registered at some point..no registry is going to look up the horses markings, even if they found a match the papers wouldnt be in your name and then you could end up in a battle over the papers plus you would need to find the parents to submit dna testing to prove that those papers do indeed belong to that horse.. which is mote as the registrys wont do it so you'll most likey never know.

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